Q&A
Discussion on the status of AEP and 7A programs
1:04:42
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4 min
Council Member Brewer inquires about the status of the Alternative Enforcement Program (AEP) and the 7A program. Commissioner Carrión and Deputy Commissioner Santiago provide updates on both programs, including the number of buildings and units involved, and the process for managing these properties.
- AEP currently includes 250 buildings with over 7,600 units, a 35% increase from previous years
- There are about 24-27 active 7A cases, with more in progress
- The discussion touches on the differences between AEP and 7A in terms of property management and ownership
Gale A. Brewer
1:04:42
Number 2 is just 7 a.
1:04:45
What's the status of that program?
1:04:46
Because I know you have some it it it it plays a role, but the reason I ask is how many still in effect.
1:04:53
You do have quite a few buildings that I think maybe they were on the list that the public advocate puts out every year where it could be used.
1:05:00
I just was wanting the status and just AEP in general.
Adolfo Carrión Jr.
1:05:04
So so on on AP, you know, we select 250 buildings as That
Gale A. Brewer
1:05:10
was my law.
Adolfo Carrión Jr.
1:05:10
As you guys directed, right, the most distressed buildings citywide each year.
1:05:18
This last 17th
Jimmy Oddo
1:05:21
round
Gale A. Brewer
1:05:21
Right.
Adolfo Carrión Jr.
1:05:23
Was just released at the end of January.
1:05:26
We have 250 buildings, 7 more than 7600 units.
1:05:33
Most apartments ever included in a single round, which is about a 35% increase from from 49100 in the past.
1:05:47
53,000 violations.
1:05:51
They address almost 16,000 of them are class c violations, which are health, life, and safety
Gale A. Brewer
1:05:57
Yeah.
Adolfo Carrión Jr.
1:05:57
The most important ones.
1:06:01
There's about $3,600,000 owed in emergency repair related arrears by some of these buildings.
1:06:09
And 42 are in litigation.
1:06:13
We're in litigation prior to being selected for the program.
1:06:18
So, you know, it's aggressive.
1:06:20
It continues to be aggressive.
1:06:22
It's important for our administration.
Gale A. Brewer
1:06:23
And then this is my non knowledge.
1:06:26
But so they are run by you, by an administrator, when the when the eight piece kicks in, who runs those buildings?
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Who's a who's a management?
Adolfo Carrión Jr.
1:06:37
When you do
Gale A. Brewer
1:06:37
you take them over?
1:06:38
Does a 7 a take them over?
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How does that work?
Adolfo Carrión Jr.
1:06:41
So the 78 is a is a separate program.
1:06:44
I don't know.
1:06:44
A separate program.
1:06:45
Yeah.
1:06:45
Yeah.
1:06:45
Does the is the deputy the deputy commissioner for enforcement here.
1:06:49
Maybe she can help.
1:06:51
We have Anne Marie Santiago, who everybody knows.
1:06:55
She's a regular.
Gale A. Brewer
1:06:56
Everybody knows her.
Adolfo Carrión Jr.
1:06:57
She's got she's got a greatest hits for city council hearing.
UNKNOWN
1:07:02
Please raise your right hand, obviously.
1:07:04
Please raise your right hand.
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You affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth before the committee and to respond honestly to council member questions?
AnnMarie Santiago
1:07:11
Yes.
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I do.
1:07:12
Thank you.
1:07:12
Thank you, council member, Brewer.
1:07:14
So yeah.
1:07:15
So as the commissioner started to say AEP and 7a are 2 separate pronouns.
1:07:19
In AEP, the owner continues to own the building.
1:07:23
And manage the building day to day.
1:07:24
The difference in 7a is the owner still does own the building, but a 7a administrator is a pointed for the day to day management and to do the major repairs.
Gale A. Brewer
1:07:33
And how many 7 days do you have now do you think?
AnnMarie Santiago
1:07:36
So we have about 27, I believe, active 7 days or 24 of 7 days.
1:07:41
Okay.
1:07:41
And we have many in progress.
1:07:43
As you probably know, it takes a long time going through the courts to get the appointment.
1:07:49
So we do have more than 20 active cases right now.
Gale A. Brewer
1:07:52
And in terms of the AP, how long does it take?
1:07:54
I mean, maybe there's no average, but to get the building back in track so that I guess you pull out of it and the owner says, how long does that It's a lot of units, 76100.
AnnMarie Santiago
1:08:06
That is the most units we've ever had council member, and it is going to be a challenge for us this year.
1:08:12
Historically speaking, about 50% of the buildings get out within the 1st 4 months, if you recall an AEP, There's an incentive of inspection fees that starts kicking in after a certain period of time, and about half of the buildings get themselves discharged.
1:08:29
They us all the violations or 80% of the violations, there is criteria for discharge.
1:08:35
They have to be registered.
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They have to pay their fees.
1:08:38
And the other half stay in the program past that, at which point, as I mentioned, they get fees imposed, they have an order to do larger types of corrective action.
1:08:49
So this round we're going to have to wait and see.
1:08:52
There are a lot of challenging buildings.
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In the Are
Gale A. Brewer
1:08:54
there vacancies that could be used for those who are on house?
1:08:57
Is that something that is part of this program, or are they mostly completely tenanted.
AnnMarie Santiago
1:09:02
Again, in AEP, the owner still owns the property and handles any vacancies associated with that.
Gale A. Brewer
1:09:09
You couldn't put in some stipulation that in addition to the fines that you're not paying because you haven't fixed it, you know, you could also be mandated to house people who are unharassed.
AnnMarie Santiago
1:09:19
I don't know of any current enforcement programs that have that type of stipulation council member, but certainly we can take your question back.