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QUESTION

Can physical alterations like plastic surgery, colored contacts, and makeup fool biometric identification systems?

3:19:40

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4 min

Sharon Brown questions the effectiveness of biometric systems against extensive physical alterations like plastic surgery, colored contacts, and heavy makeup that can change a person's appearance.

  • Robert Tappan from the International Biometrics And Identity Association states that the technology can detect such attempted fakery and disguises.
  • Brown challenges this, citing examples of bone structure alterations through surgeries like nose jobs.
  • She emphasizes the lengths people may go for identity alteration and stresses the system's need to recognize these attempts.
Sharon Brown
3:19:40
Can I can I say something?
3:19:42
What if is the system smart enough to detect what if I said, hey, I'm gonna look like you, and I got eye color the eye contacts?
3:19:54
Contact.
3:19:54
I don't wear them.
3:19:55
Sorry.
3:19:56
The contacts, I did my got a a hair like yours, and I put on the makeup and I try to beat the system, would it be able to detect that?
3:20:06
People are getting plastic surgery to look like other people and so many different things.
3:20:11
So is that system smart enough to detect that there's a fake actual human AI that went to a plastic surgeon look like this person next to them.
3:20:23
Mhmm.
3:20:23
So could it pick that up in that system?
3:20:25
Is it smart?
Jennifer Gutiérrez
3:20:26
Not a good question.
Sharon Brown
3:20:27
I know I deal with technology myself.
3:20:29
I let the other people build it, but I I deal with the technology.
3:20:34
So could it could someone beat that system by just putting on contacts and hair and the same kind of dress that someone wear and put makeup, contour their face with makeup.
3:20:48
Could they beat it and put on the same color eyes, change the shape, look, with Tate.
Jennifer Gutiérrez
3:20:54
I'm not sure.
3:20:54
Tate.
3:20:55
I hear you.
3:20:56
I hear what you're saying.
Sharon Brown
3:20:57
Okay.
3:20:57
Let's just say I wanna say I wanna look Asians.
3:21:00
Today.
Jennifer Gutiérrez
3:21:01
No.
3:21:01
I got it.
3:21:01
I got it, ma'am.
3:21:02
I got it.
3:21:02
I got the examples.
3:21:03
No.
3:21:03
I got you.
3:21:04
I'm not sure.
3:21:04
I don't know if I'm equipped to answer that question.
3:21:06
I don't know if anyone here wants to answer it.
Robert Tappan
3:21:08
But I would just simply say the answer is is to your question is no.
3:21:14
The technology is such that it can detect all of the different types of fakery that goes on when people try to disrupt this.
Sharon Brown
3:21:24
An ease of surgery?
Robert Tappan
3:21:26
Even surgery.
3:21:27
The the the beauty of the human body is that we are all uniquely we are all unique we all have a set of of bones and jeans and makeup and irises and retinas that are all unique.
3:21:45
You can't fool No.
3:21:47
Those sorts of things.
Jennifer Gutiérrez
3:21:48
See, I'm so sorry.
3:21:49
We I just have to get them to answer their questions because we do have under other panel I apologize.
3:21:53
And does anyone else wanna weigh in on on my original question about deepfake or or concern about that?
Robert Tappan
3:22:01
If I could.
Jennifer Gutiérrez
3:22:02
Yeah.
Robert Tappan
3:22:02
Yep.
3:22:02
Sorry.
3:22:03
So to to answer that question is is it ever gonna be a 100% accurate no.
3:22:11
And that's what every that's what every hackers strives for, and that's what every company strives for.
3:22:18
The by by putting limits on biometrics.
3:22:24
You are actually hindering the progress and innovation that legitimate core corporate businesses are doing to make it more accurate, to go beyond the deep faith, to be able to tell what is is accurate and what isn't.
3:22:39
And so it's a never ending battle.
3:22:43
It's it's like the Cold War.
3:22:45
And but it's in now it's in biometrics.
3:22:48
So to overcoming those things is a constant battle that needs to be won by the by by the side that is not trying to do is try is trying to do something that's right as opposed to deceive.
Sharon Brown
3:23:04
And just one last thing.
Jennifer Gutiérrez
3:23:05
Yeah.
Sharon Brown
3:23:05
Okay.
3:23:06
So he said if you can't beat the system because we have different bones.
3:23:09
Well, I know specifically people if they have a bump on their nose, they shave it.
3:23:14
So they're shaving bones and doing different things in the surgeries.
3:23:18
So could something like that beat the system So say for instance, my nose is like this today.
3:23:24
I can go into surgery and get it shaved down and get it contour, make it smaller.
3:23:30
My I can get my bone and my chin shaved down to be pointier could that beat the system and look like appear like someone else?
3:23:40
Would you be able to pick that up?
3:23:41
That's something that you really need to look into.
3:23:44
Be because people are going that in-depth in surgery.
3:23:48
The the nose is the oldest one.
3:23:50
They shaved down the bone in the nose.
3:23:52
Thank you.
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