Q&A
Council member inquires about affordable housing data and wages
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Council Member Gale A. Brewer engages in a detailed discussion with Oona Adams about affordable housing data, wages, and the distinction between different types of affordable housing projects. They explore the lack of available data and the wages paid in various affordable housing scenarios.
- Brewer questions the definition of 'affordable housing' and the wages paid in different types of projects
- Adams clarifies that their data covers both for-profit and non-profit affordable housing projects
- They discuss specific examples of affordable housing projects and their wage structures
Gale A. Brewer
1:55:44
No.
1:55:44
I guess because of the data lack of, you don't know.
1:55:48
When people say they're affordable housing, that doesn't mean they're affordable housing.
1:55:52
In my world, if you're affordable housing, you're nonprofit, and you're a 100% affordable.
1:55:57
So I think when a lot of people are talking, they're talking about people who say they're affordable housing, but not really.
1:56:02
So but you probably can't tell between because you don't have the data, those that are really affordable, nonprofit, what they're paying, versus those who say they're affordable.
1:56:13
And is that correct that you
Oona Adams
1:56:15
no.
1:56:15
So not not to be disagreeable, but the local law 44 data that we have looking backwards from 19 months does delineate who the developers are.
1:56:27
And we also keep our own data tracking all affordable housing in the city for both for profit and not for profit.
1:56:34
So we look up who the developers and look at their status.
1:56:38
The projects which just decided which we have folks on are a 100 percent affordable housing projects.
1:56:45
They're not not MIA, not 421a.
1:56:48
So when we're talking here on these panels about affordable housing, We are talking about projects which are 80% to a 100% affordable.
1:56:58
Some are done with not for profits.
1:57:00
Some not.
1:57:01
What I'll tell you is that we are out with all of our organizing stuff talking to workers, and there is no differential in the ages.
1:57:09
So there's a joint venture where we have an organizer on right now, and the laborers are making, you know, 17 to $20 an hour.
1:57:20
And that's
Gale A. Brewer
1:57:21
That's a nonprofit.
Oona Adams
1:57:22
That's a non profit.
Gale A. Brewer
1:57:23
And you have found some of the state projects that are 100 percent affordable nonprofit that they are paying $40?
Oona Adams
1:57:30
No.
1:57:31
So only when they have done I'm sorry.
1:57:34
You said
Gale A. Brewer
1:57:34
state as opposed to the city.
Oona Adams
1:57:36
So the state 45 Act hasn't actually taken effect.
Gale A. Brewer
1:57:40
Oh, no.
1:57:41
Yeah.
1:57:41
So you haven't seen anything that could be that should be $40 as a nonprofit, a 100% affordable.
1:57:49
That doesn't exist as what you're saying.
Oona Adams
1:57:50
So we have the projects which Justice mentioned earlier, I believe one of them is a JV.
1:57:57
Is that correct?
1:57:58
Justice with RISE Burrow, who is a nonprofit.
1:58:01
Yeah.
1:58:01
And then one of the projects is all three are 100% affordable to my knowledge, and one of them is with a not for profit.
1:58:08
And those are projects where we have union laborers on the job at our residential rate, which is actually like 41 and change.
Gale A. Brewer
1:58:15
That's helped to the West Coast And Good Organization.
