Q&A
Potential costs and considerations for expanding Summer Rising capacity
2:20:47
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3 min
Council Member Rita C. Joseph inquires about the potential costs of expanding Summer Rising capacity. Officials discuss various considerations and challenges associated with program expansion, while Council Member Stevens emphasizes the importance of improving current operations before expanding.
- Expansion would require finding more CBOs and considering additional supports
- Costs would include space, transportation, buildings, meals, and additional support services
- Officials unable to provide a specific cost estimate due to the complexity of factors involved
- Council Member Stevens stresses the need to focus on improving attendance rates and addressing current issues before expansion
- DYCD implemented an overenrollment strategy at high-demand sites to increase attendance rates without expecting providers to serve more students than allocated
Rita C. Joseph
2:20:47
The collaborations.
2:20:48
So, for example, we we have a 110,000 slots.
2:20:54
Let's say you get a 120 students.
2:20:56
What would it cost to just accept all a 120,000 students?
2:21:01
It's a it's a budget question.
Daniel Guillén
2:21:05
I mean, the 2 part.
2:21:06
Right?
2:21:06
Because it's us now finding more opportunities to find more CBOs.
2:21:13
Right?
2:21:13
Okay.
2:21:15
It's also worth noting.
2:21:16
Right?
2:21:16
We wanna we wanna be thoughtful about what this means to expand.
2:21:20
And even in this current process, when there were opportunities to increase number of seats because we were looking at applications, we had to be thoughtful about that expansion because we wanna make sure that, you know, on the ground CEOs are able to provide those support effectively.
2:21:38
But also, you know, there's other costs to that as well.
2:21:40
Right?
2:21:40
When you open up more seats that means more space.
2:21:44
Right?
2:21:44
More supports because if we're prioritizing more youth, they may need other additional power supports, transportation, buildings, meals.
2:21:53
Right?
2:21:53
So it's kind of a a price tag that goes dot dot dot.
Rita C. Joseph
2:21:57
Do you have a number?
Daniel Guillén
2:21:59
That's a great question that we'll have to
Emma Vadehra
2:22:03
We don't have a we don't we don't have a number, I will say, on our side because of the way the costs work, it would it'll be very hard for us to give a precise for this many kids, this many things.
2:22:14
As you know, things like busing, facilities, even teachers in a classroom, nurses, they're not a per student cost.
2:22:22
And so it'll be challenging to do in that way, but we can certainly work with CYCD to talk about the cost of sites and stuff like that.
Althea V. Stevens
2:22:30
I would actually love for us to focus on getting the titans up from 68 to higher than talking about expansion that actually stressing me out because I think we're at a critical moment of, like, evaluations because some of the things I think that came up today is even thinking about the students who are mandated versus students who are not mandated.
2:22:48
And there's some bumps and that we still need to work out and thinking about, you know, this one size outfit model is not working.
2:22:56
So what are some things that we can do before we start to expand it.
2:22:59
So before you start crunching your numbers, let's actually stay here and focus on what it is before we expand.
2:23:06
Because we're gonna expand at some point.
2:23:08
Right?
2:23:08
Like, we're gonna get to universal.
2:23:11
Child care and after school and all these things, but I think we need to, like, make sure we have worked on all the kings before we even get there.
2:23:17
So I
Susan Haskell
2:23:18
I know where we're going, but we ain't there yet.
2:23:20
I very much appreciate that question.
2:23:22
We mentioned many, and we could say more about the things that we did to increase attendance, that's a goal for all of us to maximize participation wise so more families can get in.
2:23:32
And one of the things that we did this year was overenroll high demand sites because we have the data about what kids are attending.
2:23:41
And so we work to ensure our providers, like, you're if you're getting a 100, if you're getting in a 100 seats, we're not anticipating you need to serve any more than a 100 students.
2:23:51
This is something that I we also saw in the UNH report.
2:23:54
And I wanted to say, like, that's one of our that's one of the things we attempted to do to increase attendance rates.
2:24:00
And we're gonna keep trying this overenrollment, not because there was an expectation to serve more young people, but because we see the data patterns now, and we know that we can push a little bit further.
