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Discussion on using cameras on train cars to address subway surfing

2:13:59

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Council Member Eric Dinowitz inquires about the possibility of installing cameras on top of train cars to address subway surfing, while MTA Chief Security Officer Michael Kemper explains the practical challenges of such an implementation.

  • Dinowitz suggests cameras on train cars could be more efficient and cost-effective than drones
  • Kemper explains that installing cameras on top of train cars is not always practical due to space constraints, especially in tunnels
  • Dinowitz acknowledges this might work for some lines and suggests cameras between cars as an alternative
  • The discussion highlights the complexities of implementing technological solutions to address subway surfing
Eric Dinowitz
2:13:59
It involves technology, regarding the drones.
2:14:03
I'm hearing a lot about drones.
2:14:05
Big fan of the use of technology.
2:14:08
What is preventing the MTA from installing cameras on the tops of its 65100 or so train cars, which I I think would sounds like it would be more efficient, more cost effective, and you wouldn't have to wait or hope that a drone is circling overhead in order to get the footage and and get the important information you need.
2:14:28
Yeah.
2:14:28
Or some So
Michael Kemper
2:14:29
I'll I'll I'll start with that.
2:14:31
And, some sometimes what sounds easy, it's not easy.
Eric Dinowitz
2:14:39
What's my message?
Michael Kemper
2:14:39
It's not practical.
2:14:41
There are certain areas, I'll give you an example.
2:14:44
And and we've thought about a lot.
2:14:46
And I gotta be very careful because there is pending litigation over this exact subject matter with the MTA.
2:14:51
But just envision, a train elevated, with a camera on top, going into, the tunnel.
2:14:59
And there's an inch and a half, 2 inch, 2 inches of overall space separating the top, to the, to the fixed, tunnel.
2:15:09
That's one example of why it's not practical and doable, if if that makes, sense.
Mark Rampersant
2:15:16
I I
Eric Dinowitz
2:15:17
mean, it sounds like it makes sense for some of your lines.
Michael Kemper
2:15:21
Some of them.
Eric Dinowitz
2:15:21
You know the, geometry of your lines, how many engines are available.
Joseph Gulotta
2:15:25
And But
Eric Dinowitz
2:15:25
I would imagine some lines is available.
2:15:27
And in between cars, I would imagine there's space for cameras as well.
Michael Kemper
2:15:32
So yeah.
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