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New York City Council

Committee on Children and Youth

Dec 12, 2024

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10:00 AM

3 hr 17 min

Summary

A hearing on ACS Preventative Services Programming, examining the agency's efforts to support families and prevent foster care placements.

Discussions focused on:

  • The CARES model as an alternative to traditional investigations
  • Family Enrichment Centers (FECs)
  • School-based support programs
  • Challenges in service delivery and accessibility

The hearing also considered legislation on providing mental health services to children returning from foster care and ensuring families receive information about legal counsel during ACS investigations.

Features testimony from the Administration for Children's Services (ACS), impacted parents, advocacy groups, and the public.

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REMARKS

Council Member Stevens' opening remarks on ACS Preventative Services hearing

Council Member Althea V. Stevens opens the hearing on ACS Preventative Services Programming, introducing the topics to be discussed and legislation to be considered. She emphasizes the importance of preventative …

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3 min

AGENCY TESTIMONY

Introduction and overview of ACS services

Commissioner Jess Dannhauser introduces himself and key ACS staff members, providing an overview of ACS's approach to supporting children, youth, and families in New York City. He emphasizes the importance …

0:04:58

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114 sec

AGENCY TESTIMONY

Community partnerships and Family Enrichment Centers (FECs)

Commissioner Dannhauser describes ACS's community partnerships and the expansion of Family Enrichment Centers (FECs) across New York City. These initiatives aim to provide localized, community-driven support for families. - 11 …

0:06:53

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105 sec

AGENCY TESTIMONY

Child safety and injury prevention efforts

The Commissioner outlines the work of ACS's Office of Child Safety and Injury Prevention, which focuses on educating families and professionals about preventing unintentional childhood injuries. - Provides education, training, …

0:08:39

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34 sec

AGENCY TESTIMONY

Continuum of child well-being prevention services

Commissioner Dannhauser details the extensive range of prevention services offered by ACS, aimed at supporting families and preventing involvement with child protection services. - ACS contracts with 43 providers for …

0:09:13

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3 min

AGENCY TESTIMONY

Family experience survey results

The Commissioner presents findings from the annual family experience survey, which gathers feedback from families who have participated in ACS prevention programs. - 94% of participants reported being happy with …

0:12:20

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50 sec

AGENCY TESTIMONY

Community-based alternatives for at-risk youth

Commissioner Dannhauser describes the Family Assessment Program (FAP) and other community-based alternatives designed to prevent at-risk youth from entering the justice system or foster care. - FAP has significantly reduced …

0:13:10

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66 sec

AGENCY TESTIMONY

Discussion of proposed legislation (Intro 652 and Intro 9-A)

The Commissioner addresses two pieces of proposed legislation: Intro 652 and Intro 9-A, outlining ACS's position and current practices related to these bills. - Intro 652 proposes free mental health …

0:14:18

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84 sec

AGENCY TESTIMONY

Closing remarks and support line information

Commissioner Dannhauser concludes his testimony with personal reflections and emphasizes the availability of support for New York families through the ACS support line. - Acknowledges the challenges and rewards of …

0:15:42

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23 sec

REMARKS

Councilmember Sanchez's statement on racial disparities in child welfare and Intro 652

Councilmember Stevens reads a statement from Councilmember Sanchez highlighting racial disparities in the child welfare system and introducing Intro 652. The statement addresses the disproportionate impact of emergency removals on …

0:16:08

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78 sec

Q&A

Discussion on ACS hotline and support number outreach efforts

Councilmember Stevens inquires about the ACS hotline and support number, focusing on how it's advertised and how families learn about it. Commissioner Dannhauser explains the outreach efforts and the impact …

0:17:27

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113 sec

Q&A

Addressing concerns about support for parents with active ACS cases

Councilmember Stevens raises concerns about parents with active ACS cases who are struggling to get support or understand their situations. Commissioner Dannhauser discusses ACS's efforts to provide information and support …

0:19:20

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116 sec

Q&A

Suggestions for improving ACS outreach and information dissemination

Councilmember Stevens suggests ways to improve ACS outreach and information dissemination, focusing on collaboration with other city agencies and community organizations. Commissioner Dannhauser acknowledges the suggestions and expresses willingness to …

0:21:16

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119 sec

Q&A

Council member inquires about Family Enrichment Center attendance and evaluation methods

Councilmember Althea V. Stevens questions ACS officials about the attendance and evaluation of Family Enrichment Centers (FECs). Commissioner Jess Dannhauser and Deputy Commissioner Liz Wolkomir provide details on average monthly …

0:23:15

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98 sec

Q&A

Council member inquires about Family Enrichment Center outreach strategies

Councilmember Althea V. Stevens questions ACS officials about outreach strategies for Family Enrichment Centers (FECs). Deputy Commissioner Liz Wolkomir explains the various methods used to promote FECs and attract participants. …

0:24:55

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51 sec

Q&A

Council member questions ACS oversight and evaluation of Family Enrichment Centers

Councilmember Althea V. Stevens inquires about ACS oversight, observations, and evaluations of Family Enrichment Centers (FECs). Deputy Commissioner Liz Wolkomir provides information on ACS staff visits and reporting procedures. - …

0:25:47

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31 sec

REMARKS

Council member shares observations from her visit to a Family Enrichment Center

Councilmember Althea V. Stevens shares her experience and observations from visiting a Family Enrichment Center (FEC) in her district, highlighting concerns about visibility, outreach, and accessibility. - The FEC was …

0:26:26

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69 sec

Q&A

Council member inquires about changes in referral sources for preventative services

Councilmember Althea V. Stevens asks about the current percentages of referrals for preventative services coming from ACS versus the community. Commissioner Jess Dannhauser provides the current breakdown and discusses future …

0:27:37

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100 sec

Q&A

Discussion of ACS school-based preventative programs

Council Member Stevens inquires about ACS's school-based preventative programs, seeking clarification on their implementation and effectiveness. ACS officials explain the program's structure, including its connection to schools and flexibility in …

0:29:17

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6 min

Q&A

Questions on participant surveys and introduction to CARES model

Council Member Stevens inquires about ACS's participant surveys and introduces questions about the CARES model. Commissioner Dannhauser provides information on survey administration and briefly touches on the effectiveness of preventive …

0:36:16

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174 sec

REMARKS

Detailed explanation of the CARES model process

Commissioner Dannhauser provides a comprehensive overview of the CARES (Collaborative Assessment, Response, Engagement and Support) model, explaining its implementation process and key features. He details how cases are assigned to …

0:39:10

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5 min

Q&A

Questions on CARES participation and family support services

Council Member Stevens inquires about the support provided to families who decline CARES participation and the types of material assistance available. Commissioner Dannhauser explains the various forms of support ACS …

0:44:17

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163 sec

Q&A

Concerns about coercive practices in CARES implementation

Council Member Stevens raises concerns about potentially coercive practices in the CARES program, particularly regarding threats of child removal. Commissioner Dannhauser responds by emphasizing ACS's commitment to informing families of …

0:47:01

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6 min

Q&A

Expansion of CARES criteria and handling criminal activity cases

Council Member Stevens inquires about the expansion of CARES criteria, particularly regarding cases involving criminal or drug activity. Commissioner Dannhauser explains the changes made to CARES criteria and how ACS …

0:53:31

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177 sec

Q&A

Training and qualifications of CARES specialists

Council Member Stevens raises concerns about the training of CARES specialists, citing anonymous whistleblower claims. Commissioner Dannhauser explains the extensive training process for Child Protective Specialists (CPS) and additional training …

0:56:30

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102 sec

Q&A

Parental consent and enforcement in CARES cases

Council Member Stevens inquires about the requirement for parental consent in CARES cases and the enforcement tools available to CARES specialists. Commissioner Dannhauser explains the consent process and the referral …

0:58:13

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110 sec

Q&A

Data evaluation of CARES model success

Council Member Stevens inquires about the data ACS uses to evaluate the success of the CARES model. Commissioner Dannhauser explains the various metrics and processes used to assess the effectiveness …

1:00:06

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81 sec

REMARKS

Public Advocate Williams testifies on mental health services for foster youth

Public Advocate Jumaane Williams delivers testimony on the mental health challenges faced by youth in foster care and expresses support for Intro 652. This bill aims to create a pilot …

1:01:30

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149 sec

Q&A

Public Advocate Williams questions ACS on report transparency

Public Advocate Jumaane Williams initiates a discussion about ACS's reluctance to release certain reports on child fatalities. He emphasizes the importance of transparency and the potential benefits of making these …

1:04:06

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34 sec

REMARKS

ACS Commissioner Dannhauser addresses report transparency concerns

ACS Commissioner Jess Dannhauser responds to concerns about transparency in ACS reporting, explaining the agency's approach to balancing transparency with privacy protection. He outlines steps ACS is taking to improve …

1:04:40

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157 sec

Q&A

Council Member Stevens questions ACS on report transparency and accountability

Council Member Althea V. Stevens engages in a discussion with ACS Commissioner Jess Dannhauser about the transparency of ACS reports and the balance between confidentiality and accountability. They explore the …

1:07:22

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3 min

Q&A

Review mechanisms for case closure involving families with prior ACS involvement

Council Member Rita C. Joseph questions ACS Commissioner Jess Dannhauser about the mechanisms in place to review and oversee decisions when closing cases involving families with prior ACS involvement. The …

1:11:21

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150 sec

Q&A

ACS staff caseloads and workload management

Council Member Rita C. Joseph inquires about the caseloads of ACS staff, expressing concern about large caseloads potentially causing children to fall through the cracks. Commissioner Jess Dannhauser responds with …

1:15:02

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64 sec

Q&A

Aftercare and preventive services for closed ACS cases

Council Member Rita C. Joseph asks Commissioner Jess Dannhauser to explain the aftercare process for closed ACS cases. Dannhauser describes the preventive services and support systems in place for families …

1:16:07

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56 sec

Q&A

Future Force Career pilot program for young women of color in foster care

Council Member Rita C. Joseph inquires about the new Future Force Career pilot program for young women of color in foster care, which received $150,000 in city funding for fiscal …

1:17:04

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148 sec

Q&A

Council member raises concerns about inconsistencies in preventative services

Council Member Nantasha M. Williams expresses concerns about inconsistencies in preventative services provided by ACS. She highlights that families report varying levels of support depending on the assigned agency, timing, …

1:19:42

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94 sec

Q&A

ACS Commissioner responds to concerns about service provision

Commissioner Jess Dannhauser provides an initial response to Council Member Williams' concerns about inconsistencies in preventative services. He acknowledges the need for a full continuum of services while also recognizing …

1:21:16

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35 sec

REMARKS

Deputy Commissioner explains ACS's continuum of services

Deputy Commissioner Luisa Linares explains ACS's approach to providing a continuum of services. She emphasizes that the variety in services is intentional to address different family circumstances. - ACS offers …

1:21:52

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20 sec

REMARKS

ACS's approach to matching families with specific programs

Deputy Commissioner Luisa Linares details how ACS matches families to specific programs based on their unique circumstances and needs. She provides examples of different program types and their purposes. - …

1:22:13

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50 sec

REMARKS

Provision of concrete resources in ACS preventative services

Deputy Commissioner Luisa Linares addresses the provision of concrete resources in ACS preventative services. She acknowledges differences among providers but highlights efforts to provide essential items to families. - ACS …

1:23:03

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48 sec

REMARKS

Innovation and future improvements in ACS preventative services

Deputy Commissioner Luisa Linares discusses ongoing efforts to innovate and improve preventative services. She highlights the need for flexibility in funding and provider innovation. - ACS is considering changes to …

1:23:51

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51 sec

REMARKS

Council member expresses appreciation for transparency in ACS responses

Council Member Nantasha M. Williams expresses her appreciation for the transparency in the responses provided by ACS officials. She acknowledges the value of the information shared during the hearing. - …

1:24:43

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31 sec

Q&A

ACS's approach to immigration status confidentiality and family outreach

Council Member Menin questions ACS Commissioner Dannhauser about measures to protect immigrant families' information and encourage trust in ACS services. The discussion covers plans for confidentiality, outreach, and staff training. …

1:25:24

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138 sec

Q&A

Discussion of Intro 652 and existing mental health services for children after foster care

Council Member Menin questions the characterization of Intro 652 as redundant, and Commissioner Dannhauser clarifies the existing mental health services for children returning from foster care. - Explanation of current …

1:27:42

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98 sec

Q&A

Proposals for strengthening mental health services after foster care

Commissioner Dannhauser outlines specific proposals for strengthening the mental health service system for children after foster care, in response to Council Member Menin's question. - Suggestions include adding resources to …

1:29:21

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39 sec

Q&A

Concerns about potential funding cuts under the Trump administration

Council Member Menin expresses concerns about potential funding cuts under the incoming Trump administration, and Commissioner Dannhauser responds to these concerns. - Council Member Menin highlights the likelihood of funding …

1:30:00

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36 sec

REMARKS

Council Member Lee discusses Medicaid rates and advocacy

Council Member Linda Lee expresses her support for increasing Medicaid rates and expanding reimbursable services. She mentions her ongoing efforts and the openness of Anne Sullivan from OMH to these …

1:30:40

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34 sec

Q&A

Clarification on ACS programming and service providers

Council Member Lee seeks clarification on ACS programming and service providers. Commissioner Dannhauser explains the continuum of services, community partnerships, and provider overlap. - Discussion of the continuum of services …

1:31:14

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3 min

Q&A

Discussion on tracking systems and interagency communication

Council Member Lee inquires about the systems and databases used by ACS to track communications between different agencies regarding specific families. Commissioner Dannhauser explains the various methods used while addressing …

1:34:45

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118 sec

Q&A

Potential restructuring and vision for ACS

Council Member Lee asks Commissioner Dannhauser about potential restructuring of ACS and the biggest barriers to efficiency. Dannhauser outlines ACS's vision and strategic priorities for improving child protection and family …

1:36:43

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166 sec

Q&A

Reporting practices for child fatalities and commissioner discretion

Council Member Stevens inquires about ACS's reporting practices for child fatalities, particularly in cases without surviving siblings. Commissioner Dannhauser explains the process of learning from these incidents and mentions plans …

1:39:30

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120 sec

Q&A

Availability of preventive services without court orders

Council Member Stevens raises concerns about families needing court orders to access preventive services. Commissioner Dannhauser clarifies that preventive services are free and voluntary, not requiring court orders. - Preventive …

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77 sec

Q&A

Housing stipends for families receiving preventive services

Council Member Stevens inquires about housing stipends available to families receiving preventive services. Commissioner Dannhauser explains recent changes and limitations of the program. - The state recently increased the housing …

1:42:50

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84 sec

Q&A

Childcare assistance and challenges with overnight care

Council Member Stevens raises concerns about the lack of overnight childcare options for families receiving preventive services. ACS officials explain the current childcare assistance programs and their limitations. - Families …

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137 sec

Q&A

Building trust with families and addressing concerns about ACS involvement

Council Member Stevens raises concerns about families' reluctance to be honest with preventive service workers due to their connection with ACS. Commissioner Dannhauser outlines strategies to build trust and improve …

1:46:31

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3 min

Q&A

Measuring long-term impact of preventive services on family stability and child welfare outcomes

Council Member Stevens inquires about how ACS measures the long-term impact of preventive services on family stability and child welfare outcomes. Commissioner Dannhauser explains the current metrics and acknowledges the …

1:50:07

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62 sec

Q&A

Ensuring cultural competence in preventive services

Council Member Stevens asks how ACS ensures that preventive services are culturally competent and meet the diverse needs of families across the city. ACS officials outline various strategies and programs …

1:51:10

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162 sec

Q&A

Trends in foster care entries and family outcomes since 2020

Council Member Stevens asks about trends observed in foster care entries and family outcomes since the implementation of new contracts in 2020. Commissioner Dannhauser highlights significant changes and improvements. - …

1:53:53

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63 sec

Q&A

Funding and budget allocations for preventive services

Council Member Stevens inquires about funding and budget allocations for preventive services, including recent changes and future plans. Commissioner Dannhauser provides details on current budgets and explains recent program adjustments. …

1:54:58

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4 min

Q&A

Implementation of the federal Family First Prevention Act and funding sources for preventive services

Council Member Stevens inquires about the implementation of the federal Family First Prevention Act and the breakdown of funding sources for preventive services. Commissioner Dannhauser explains the current situation and …

1:59:40

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124 sec

Q&A

Discussion of Intro 652 - pilot program for mental health services for children returned home after removal

Council Member Stevens inquires about Intro 652, which proposes a pilot program to provide free mental health services to children returned home after ACS removal. Commissioner Dannhauser discusses the potential …

2:01:44

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171 sec

Q&A

Discussion of Intro 9-A - providing information about legal services to parents during ACS investigations

Council Member Stevens inquires about Intro 9-A, which concerns providing information about legal services to parents during ACS investigations. Commissioner Dannhauser explains current practices and potential improvements. - ACS currently …

2:04:38

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178 sec

Q&A

Measuring success of Family Enrichment Centers

Council Member Williams inquires about the metrics used to measure the success of Family Enrichment Centers (FECs). Deputy Commissioner Liz Wolkomir explains that ACS is still developing their data collection …

2:07:37

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125 sec

Q&A

Referral process and community outreach for Family Enrichment Centers

Council Member Williams inquires about how families are referred to Family Enrichment Centers (FECs) and how FECs make themselves known in the community. Deputy Commissioner Liz Wolkomir explains the multi-faceted …

2:09:43

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157 sec

Q&A

Challenges in reaching and engaging families in Southeast Queens

Council Member Williams highlights the difficulties in reaching and engaging families in Southeast Queens, emphasizing the need for targeted outreach strategies. She expresses concerns about the visibility and utilization of …

2:12:20

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76 sec

REMARKS

Balancing organic growth and targeted outreach for Family Enrichment Centers

Commissioner Dannhauser addresses the concerns raised about Family Enrichment Center (FEC) outreach and engagement, explaining ACS's approach to balancing organic community growth with targeted outreach efforts. - ACS is careful …

2:13:36

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61 sec

REMARKS

Council members' interest in FEC operations and future collaboration

Council Member Stevens concludes the meeting by expressing gratitude to the ACS officials and indicating a strong interest in further engagement with Family Enrichment Centers (FECs). - The council members …

2:14:38

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22 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Daphne Torres-Douglas, Vice President of Children's Village, Harlem Dowling, and Inwood House on Preventive Services in Child Welfare

Daphne Torres-Douglas, Vice President at Children's Village, Harlem Dowling, and Inwood House, testified about the challenges and importance of preventive services in the child welfare system. She emphasized the link …

2:20:58

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136 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Tanesha Grant, Executive Director of Parents Supporting Parents New York

Tanesha Grant, Executive Director of Parents Supporting Parents New York and a survivor of the child welfare system, testified in support of Intros 9-A and 652. She emphasized the importance …

2:23:20

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155 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Jesse McGleughlin, Policy Counsel at The Bronx Defenders Family Defense Practice

Jesse McGleughlin, Policy Counsel at The Bronx Defenders Family Defense Practice, testified about the importance of supporting families to prevent harm and child fatalities. She emphasized the need to address …

2:26:07

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148 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Nora McCarthy, Executive Director of New York City Family Policy Project

Nora McCarthy, Executive Director of the New York City Family Policy Project, testified about current narratives in the media regarding child welfare in New York City. She argued that solutions …

2:28:37

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3 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Nila Natarajan, Associate Director of Policy and Family Defense at Brooklyn Defender Services, on ACS Preventive Services

Nila Natarajan from Brooklyn Defender Services criticizes ACS's preventive services model, emphasizing that poverty is often mischaracterized as child neglect. She advocates for addressing poverty directly through measures like universal …

2:31:56

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153 sec

REMARKS

Council member acknowledges abuse in foster care system

Council Member Stevens acknowledges the issue of sexual abuse and other forms of abuse in the foster care system. She mentions a recent roundtable discussion with foster care youth and …

2:34:41

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39 sec

REMARKS

Council member addresses disparities in proposed solutions and calls for unity

Council Member Stevens discusses the disparities in proposed solutions for improving the child welfare system. She notes the conflicting views between those who want more support for programs like CARES …

2:35:21

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65 sec

Q&A

Feedback on proposed legislation for mental health services

Council Member Stevens asks for feedback on the proposed legislation, particularly regarding mental health services for children in the foster care system. Various speakers provide input, highlighting concerns about the …

2:36:25

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4 min

REMARKS

Challenges with agency contracts and funding allocation

Council Member Stevens addresses the complexities of agency contracts and funding in the child welfare system. She notes that many organizations have multiple contracts to sustain their operations, making it …

2:41:00

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80 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Mari Moss, Regional Representative of Community Action Board for Region 9, on ACS and Domestic Violence

Mari Moss, a regional representative for the Community Action Board for Region 9, shares her personal experience with domestic violence and the subsequent involvement of ACS. She recounts the systemic …

2:44:18

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3 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Dr. Sophine Charles, Associate Executive Director of Council of Family and Child Caring Agencies Downstate on ACS Preventative Services

Dr. Sophine Charles, representing the Council of Family and Child Caring Agencies Downstate, commended the City Council for their work on mental health and prevention services. She discussed the current …

2:47:30

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156 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Ericka Brewington, Client Advocate at Neighborhood Defender Service of Harlem

Ericka Brewington, a client advocate at Neighborhood Defender Service of Harlem and an impacted parent, testified about her experience with ACS and the mental health impacts on her children after …

2:50:10

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3 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Maria Hernandez, Social Work Student and Impacted Parent

Maria Hernandez, a social work student and impacted parent, shares her personal experience of having her daughter removed from her care at 4 months old. She describes the emotional impact …

2:53:54

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3 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Kim Mayo, Assistant Vice President of Community Services at JCCA

Kim Mayo from JCCA testifies about challenges faced by preventive services providers and the families they serve, highlighting issues such as workforce retention due to low salaries and systemic challenges …

2:57:12

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154 sec

Q&A

Council member inquires about CARES programs offered to impacted parents

Council Member Althea V. Stevens asks impacted parents if they were offered any CARES programs or services before their children were removed. Ericka Brewington responds, sharing her experience with the …

2:59:46

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45 sec

Q&A

Discussion on discrepancies between policy and implementation

Council Member Stevens and Ericka Brewington discuss the discrepancies between ACS policies and their actual implementation. Brewington expresses frustration with how ACS investigators interact with families. - Brewington suggests the …

3:00:32

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34 sec

Q&A

Parents share experiences with support services and childcare vouchers

Impacted parents Maria Hernandez and Mari Moss share their experiences with ACS support services, including challenges with discharge grants, childcare vouchers, and domestic violence services. - Maria Hernandez discusses issues …

3:01:08

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90 sec

REMARKS

Council member acknowledges parents' experiences and expresses concerns

Council Member Althea V. Stevens acknowledges the difficult experiences shared by the impacted parents and expresses her concerns about the disconnect between ACS policies and their implementation. - Stevens apologizes …

3:02:40

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29 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Michelle D. Winfield, District Leader of 74th Assembly District

Michelle D. Winfield, a District Leader in the 74th Assembly District, testifies in support of the proposed bill and shares insights from a young woman's experiences in the foster care …

3:04:02

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3 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Etopia Lane, Family Advocate with Lived Experience

Etopia Lane, a mother and family advocate with lived experience, testifies about the challenges and gaps in mental health services provided by ACS and foster agencies. She shares her personal …

3:07:21

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3 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Sharon Brown, Member of the Public, on ACS Preventative Services

Sharon Brown provided disjointed testimony on ACS preventative services, frequently going off-topic and making inflammatory statements about religious groups. Despite multiple attempts by Council Member Althea V. Stevens to redirect …

3:11:06

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122 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Angela Burton, Co-chair of Narrowing the Front Door to New York City's Child Welfare System

Angela Burton, Co-chair of Narrowing the Front Door to New York City's Child Welfare System, provided testimony regarding proposed bill Intro 9-A and family Miranda rights in the context of …

3:13:51

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173 sec

REMARKS

Council member's response to testimony on proposed bills

Council Member Althea V. Stevens responds to Angela Burton's testimony regarding the proposed bills. She clarifies her position and addresses the concerns raised about Bill 9-A. - Expresses support for …

3:16:46

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21 sec

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