Q&A
Debate on crime rates, police deployment, and resource allocation across neighborhoods
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A heated discussion ensues between Council Member Cabán and NYPD officials about crime rates, police deployment, and resource allocation in different neighborhoods. The debate highlights complex issues of public safety, racial disparities, and community resources.
- Chief Maddrey explains that areas with higher crime rates receive more police deployment.
- Cabán challenges this approach, suggesting it may perpetuate systemic issues in under-resourced communities.
- The discussion touches on the role of socioeconomic factors in crime rates and the need for resources beyond policing.
- There's tension over whether NYPD leadership has advocated for non-policing resources to address root causes of crime.
Jeffrey Maddrey
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took a look at the data.
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I took a look at the data.
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And, of of course, I wanna do a deeper dive.
1:50:21
I was looking at the data in preparation of this.
1:50:23
But when I look at the neighborhoods that we're working in, when where we're deploying and I'm in charge of deployment along with my bureau chiefs.
1:50:31
When I look at neighborhoods like East New York, a neighborhood I'm very familiar with, who has 650 robberies versus Forest Hills who have 79 robberies.
1:50:41
Of course, we're gonna be doing more enforcement over there.
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We're gonna be deploying more
Tiffany Cabán
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I wonder where that is.
Jeffrey Maddrey
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More cops.
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Alright?
1:50:46
No.
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It's very much organized.
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There's more cops over there.
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We're doing more deployment there.
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We're addressing quality of life conditions and crime conditions.
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55 shootings, 11 murders versus 0 in Forest Hills.
Babe Howell
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So So
Tiffany Cabán
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so would you say then that
Jeffrey Maddrey
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that reason alone
Tiffany Cabán
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would you say that that neighborhoods that are majority black are more crime prone or inherently dangerous?
Michael Gerber
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Not what the chief said.
Jeffrey Maddrey
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There have, but there are more crime issues there.
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I'm not saying it's more crime prone, but there are crimes that have been committed there.
Tiffany Cabán
1:51:17
Why are there more crime issues there?
Jeffrey Maddrey
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Well, if there's more crimes, it may be because of lack of resources and a whole lot of other things.
1:51:23
Oh, okay.
Michael Gerber
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And I
Jeffrey Maddrey
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don't disagree with you
Tiffany Cabán
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on this point.
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And so so you take a neighborhood that has a lack of resources that then generates harmful behavior and you send more police in when you've noticed that in these other neighborhoods with different demographics, you don't need to
Michael Gerber
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go out
Kimberly Saltz
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and police them
Tiffany Cabán
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because they have
Michael Gerber
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no socials.
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I gotta people safe.
Tiffany Cabán
1:51:39
Chair, can I just finish this line of questions?
1:51:41
No.
Michael Gerber
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We're not.
Tiffany Cabán
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A couple more questions.
1:51:42
Yeah.
Yousef Salaam
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Just wanted to also just say that we have, we're gonna we're also gonna have a second round.
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Okay.
Tiffany Cabán
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I just have 2 more,
Jeffrey Maddrey
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Oh, wait.
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Let me answer the question.
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I have a duty to protect people.
Michael Gerber
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Mhmm.
Kezilar Cornish
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And
Jeffrey Maddrey
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when there's a high amount of shootings, a high amount of robberies, I have to send more cops over there.
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Alright?
1:51:57
Listen.
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I wish I could bring the resources over there.
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I look to you to bring the resources over there.
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Alright?
1:52:02
And not saying that
Tiffany Cabán
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Are you looking to the mayor to bring those resources?
Jeffrey Maddrey
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Looking to you to bring the resources.
Tiffany Cabán
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Have you asked the mayor to bring those resources?
Jeffrey Maddrey
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So with that being said,
Tiffany Cabán
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I Have you asked the mayor to bring those resources?
Jeffrey Maddrey
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To bring police officers where crimes are being
Tiffany Cabán
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committed.
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But have you asked the mayor for the resources
Michael Gerber
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for
Tiffany Cabán
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these kinds of
Jeffrey Maddrey
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to the mayor all the time about the law.
Tiffany Cabán
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Yes or no question.
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Have you asked the mayor for the resources?
Michael Gerber
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Please talk to
Jeffrey Maddrey
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the chief.
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Like I said, I have a duty to bring Yes.
Vickie Paladino
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But re
Michael Gerber
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He's not answering a yes or no.
Yousef Salaam
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Alright.
1:52:29
We're gonna we're gonna come back for a second round.
Tiffany Cabán
1:52:31
For the for the record, he will not answer whether he has, as a public safety servant, asked the mayor for resources that he knows reduces
Jeffrey Maddrey
1:52:38
I've asked the mayor for resources for a a lot of things.
1:52:41
Okay?
1:52:42
A lot of things.
1:52:43
But I'm talking specifically about my duty right now.
Vickie Paladino
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And I'm asking you,
Tiffany Cabán
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in my capacity as an oversight officer
Jeffrey Maddrey
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areas where we see crime.
Tiffany Cabán
1:52:51
It's a very simple question you did not answer.
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Thank you, chair.
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I look forward to a second round.
Yousef Salaam
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Okay.
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We're gonna come back for a second round.
