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New York City Council

Committee on Public Safety

Feb 19, 2025

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10:00 AM

4 hr 12 min

Summary

A hearing on the NYPD's implementation of the Public Oversight of Surveillance Technology (POST) Act.

Discussions focused on:

  • Concerns about transparency
  • Incomplete disclosures of surveillance technologies
  • Data sharing practices
  • Potential discriminatory impacts

The hearing also covered proposed bills to enhance oversight, including requirements for more detailed impact and use policies and mandated audits of facial recognition technology.

Debates arose over the NYPD's use of facial recognition, predictive policing, and data sharing with federal agencies.

Features testimony from the Department of Investigation, NYPD officials, civil liberties organizations, and the public.

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REMARKS

Council Member Yusef Salaam introduces the hearing and acknowledges attendees

Council Member Yusef Salaam opens the joint hearing on examining the NYPD's implementation of the POST Act. He introduces himself as the chair of the public safety committee and acknowledges …

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REMARKS

Overview of the hearing on NYPD's surveillance technology use

Council Member Salaam outlines the purpose of the hearing, which is to examine the NYPD's compliance with the Public Oversight of Surveillance Technology (POST) Act and consider legislative proposals to …

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40 sec

REMARKS

Explanation of the Public Oversight of Surveillance Technology (POST) Act

Council Member Salaam provides an overview of the POST Act, enacted in February 2020, which requires the NYPD to publish Impact and Use Policies (IUPs) for surveillance technologies deployed by …

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61 sec

REMARKS

Concerns raised about NYPD's expanding use of surveillance technologies

Council Member Salaam addresses the expansion of NYPD's surveillance tools and the associated concerns regarding privacy, civil liberties, and potential misuse. - Lists various surveillance tools including drones, facial recognition, …

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32 sec

REMARKS

Recent reports and ongoing challenges in NYPD's compliance with the POST Act

Council Member Salaam discusses recent reports from the Office of Inspector General for the NYPD, highlighting ongoing challenges in the department's compliance with the POST Act. - Mentions concerns about …

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83 sec

REMARKS

Legislative proposals to strengthen oversight of NYPD surveillance technologies

Council Member Salaam introduces three legislative proposals that will be discussed during the hearing, aimed at strengthening oversight of NYPD's surveillance technologies. - Intro 168: Strengthens OIG-NYPD's capacity to conduct …

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REMARKS

Closing remarks and handover to Chair Brewer

Council Member Yusef Salaam concludes his opening statement with closing remarks and hands over to Chair Brewer. - Expresses gratitude to colleagues and staff for organizing the hearing - Emphasizes …

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REMARKS

Council Member Gale Brewer's opening remarks on NYPD's implementation of the POST Act

Council Member Gale Brewer, chair of the Committee on Oversight and Investigations, provides opening remarks on the hearing examining the NYPD's implementation of the Public Oversight of Surveillance Technologies (POST) …

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3 min

REMARKS

Council Member Jennifer Gutiérrez's opening remarks on NYPD surveillance technology oversight

Council Member Jennifer Gutiérrez delivers opening remarks for a hearing on the NYPD's implementation of the Public Oversight of Surveillance Technology (POST) Act. She expresses disappointment with the NYPD's lack …

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3 min

REMARKS

Council Member Julie Won presents Intro 480 to strengthen the POST Act

Council Member Julie Won introduces and advocates for Intro 480, a bill designed to strengthen the Public Oversight of Surveillance Technology (POST) Act of 2020. She explains that the bill …

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95 sec

REMARKS

Council Member Amanda Farías introduces Intro 168 on NYPD surveillance technology oversight

Council Member Amanda Farías presents Intro 168, a bill designed to enhance oversight of the NYPD's use of surveillance technology. The legislation aims to increase transparency, accountability, and public trust …

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123 sec

REMARKS

Council Member Williams introduces bill on tree pruning information accessibility

Council Member Nantasha Williams introduces Intro 978, a bill requiring 311 and the Department of Parks and Recreation to provide comprehensive online resources for tree pruning-related requests and information. The …

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179 sec

AGENCY TESTIMONY

Introduction and background on DOI's role in POST Act oversight

Commissioner Jocelyn Strauber introduces herself and provides context on the Department of Investigation's oversight role regarding NYPD's use of surveillance technology under the POST Act. She explains the requirement for …

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58 sec

AGENCY TESTIMONY

Summary of DOI's 2023 report on five new NYPD surveillance technologies

Commissioner Strauber summarizes the 2023 POST Act report, which examined Impact and Use Policies (IUPs) for five new surveillance technologies introduced by NYPD in 2023. The report found that NYPD …

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3 min

AGENCY TESTIMONY

Findings on DigiDog and other surveillance technologies from 2023 report

Commissioner Strauber details the findings from the 2023 report regarding DigiDog and other surveillance technologies. The report concluded that NYPD's approach to IUPs for these technologies did not fully meet …

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132 sec

AGENCY TESTIMONY

Recommendations from DOI's 2023 report on NYPD surveillance technologies

Commissioner Strauber outlines the recommendations made in the 2023 POST Act report regarding NYPD's use of surveillance technologies. OIG NYPD issued seven policy and procedure recommendations to address the issues …

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56 sec

AGENCY TESTIMONY

Overview of DOI's 2024 report on NYPD's drone program

Commissioner Strauber introduces the 2024 POST Act report, which focused on NYPD's use of drones or unmanned aircraft systems (UAS). The report examined the department's drone program and its implementation …

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AGENCY TESTIMONY

Findings from DOI's 2024 report on NYPD's drone program

Commissioner Strauber details the findings from the 2024 report on NYPD's drone program. OIG NYPD reviewed two Impact and Use Policies (IUPs) applicable to the drone program and found that …

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AGENCY TESTIMONY

Recommendations from DOI's 2024 report on NYPD's drone program

Commissioner Strauber outlines the recommendations made in the 2024 POST Act report regarding NYPD's drone program. OIG NYPD issued ten policy and procedure recommendations to address the issues identified in …

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AGENCY TESTIMONY

DOI's approach to annual POST Act audits

Commissioner Strauber explains the Department of Investigation's approach to conducting annual audits required by the POST Act. Due to the extensive scope of NYPD's surveillance technology use, DOI has adopted …

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AGENCY TESTIMONY

Comments on proposed legislation related to surveillance technology oversight

Commissioner Strauber provides DOI's perspective on three proposed bills related to surveillance technology oversight: Intro 168, Intro 233, and Intro 480. These bills align with recommendations made in DOI's 2022 …

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70 sec

Q&A

Discussion on Open Data and surveillance technology data

Council Member Gale Brewer inquires about the possibility of including data from surveillance technologies in the Open Data platform. Commissioner Jocelyn Strauber acknowledges that while the POST Act requires descriptions …

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Q&A

Importance of individual IUPs for distinct surveillance technologies

Council Member Brewer inquires about the importance of producing individual Impact and Use Policies (IUPs) for each distinct surveillance technology. Commissioner Strauber explains the necessity for separate IUPs to ensure …

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124 sec

Q&A

DOI's transparency in audits and investigations of police practices

Commissioner Strauber explains how the Department of Investigation (DOI) ensures transparency in its audits and investigations of police practices. The main method is through the work they do and the …

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49 sec

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Staffing concerns for comprehensive audits of surveillance technologies

Council Member Brewer raises concerns about staffing for comprehensive audits of rapidly changing surveillance technologies. Commissioner Strauber addresses the challenges and limitations of their current staffing situation. - Strauber clarifies …

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Access to vendor agreements for surveillance technologies

Council Member Brewer inquires about DOI's access to vendor agreements and contracts for surveillance technologies. Commissioner Strauber confirms that they can request and access these agreements during audits. - DOI …

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Assessing compliance with POST Act for new surveillance technologies

Council Member Brewer inquires about how DOI assesses whether the police department's use of new surveillance technologies complies with the POST Act. Commissioner Strauber explains their approach to staying informed …

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Council Member Gutiérrez questions DOI Commissioner about POST Act recommendations and NYPD contracts

Council Member Jennifer Gutiérrez questions DOI Commissioner Jocelyn Strauber about the NYPD's implementation of the POST Act. The discussion focuses on rejected recommendations from the DOI's report and concerns about …

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3 min

Q&A

Council Member Cabán questions Commissioner Strauber on DOI's access to NYPD surveillance data

Council Member Tiffany Cabán questions Commissioner Jocelyn Strauber about the Department of Investigation's access to NYPD surveillance technology data and past agreements to withhold information from the public. Strauber explains …

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3 min

Q&A

Council Member Brewer questions DOI Commissioner on surveillance technology oversight

Council Member Gale Brewer engages in a Q&A session with DOI Commissioner Jocelyn Strauber, focusing on various aspects of surveillance technology oversight. The discussion covers collaboration with CCRB, AI-driven technologies, …

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3 min

AGENCY TESTIMONY

Introduction and overview of NYPD's stance on technology use

Michael Gerber, Deputy Commissioner of Legal Matters for the NYPD, introduces himself and his colleagues, and provides an overview of the department's stance on technology use in law enforcement. He …

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AGENCY TESTIMONY

NYPD's compliance efforts with the POST Act

Gerber outlines the NYPD's efforts to comply with the Public Oversight of Surveillance Technology (POST) Act since its passage in 2020. He highlights the department's publication and amendment of Impact …

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AGENCY TESTIMONY

NYPD's response to Intro 168 on surveillance technology reporting

Gerber addresses Intro 168, which would require the NYPD to provide detailed information about surveillance technologies to the Department of Investigation (DOI). He expresses the department's commitment to DOI's oversight …

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AGENCY TESTIMONY

NYPD's stance on Intro 233 regarding facial recognition technology

Gerber discusses Intro 233, which concerns the establishment and publication of procedures for facial recognition technology use by the NYPD. He outlines the department's current practices and their position on …

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AGENCY TESTIMONY

NYPD's concerns and negotiations regarding Intro 480

Gerber expresses the NYPD's concerns about Intro 480, which would amend the POST Act to require separate Impact and Use Policies (IUPs) for each surveillance technology. He outlines potential issues …

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AGENCY TESTIMONY

Conclusion and future collaboration prospects

Gerber concludes his testimony by emphasizing the potential for compromise and the importance of ongoing dialogue between the NYPD and its critics. He expresses optimism about finalizing a bill that …

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45 sec

Q&A

Privacy concerns and warrant-less use of surveillance technologies

Council Member Yusef Salaam inquires about the use of surveillance technologies without warrants. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber explains that some technologies require warrants while others do not, depending on the …

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Q&A

NYPD's use of surveillance technologies in protests and demonstrations

Council Member Yusef Salaam questions the NYPD's use of surveillance technologies during protests and political demonstrations. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber explains the department's approach, focusing on the use of drones …

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Potential tracking of journalists, activists, and civil rights organizations

Council Member Yusef Salaam inquires about the NYPD's potential use of surveillance technologies to track journalists, activists, or civil rights organizations. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber responds to these concerns. - …

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Q&A

Data retention policies for surveillance technologies

Council Member Yusef Salaam questions the NYPD's data retention policies for various types of surveillance data. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber explains the varying retention periods and access protocols. - Retention …

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NYPD's data sharing practices with other law enforcement agencies

Council Member Yusef Salaam inquires about the NYPD's practices in sharing collected data with other law enforcement agencies such as ICE or the FBI. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber explains the …

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Measures to prevent unauthorized access or misuse of surveillance data

Council Member Yusef Salaam asks about the NYPD's methods for preventing unauthorized access or misuse of surveillance data. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber explains the department's approach to data security. - …

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82 sec

Q&A

Potential breaches or unauthorized access to NYPD surveillance data

Council Member Yusef Salaam inquires about any breaches, leaks, or unauthorized access to NYPD's surveillance data. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber responds to these concerns. - Gerber states he can't definitively …

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NYPD's use of drones and their capabilities

Council Member Yusef Salaam questions the NYPD about their use of drones, particularly regarding attachments mentioned in an OIG-NYPD report. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber responds to these concerns. - NYPD …

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87 sec

Q&A

Storage and access of video and data from NYPD drones

Council Member Yusef Salaam inquires about the storage and access of video and data collected by NYPD drones. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber explains the department's policies. - The standard storage …

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62 sec

Q&A

Facial recognition technology and concerns about algorithmic bias

Council Member Yusef Salaam raises concerns about facial recognition technology and its potential for misidentifying people of color. NYPD officials respond to these concerns and explain their use of the …

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3 min

Q&A

False positive rates and addressing misidentification in facial recognition

Council Member Yusef Salaam inquires about the false positive rate of NYPD's facial recognition system and how the department addresses cases of misidentification. NYPD officials respond with their processes and …

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153 sec

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NYPD's use of artificial intelligence and predictive policing

Council Member Yusef Salaam asks about the NYPD's current or planned use of artificial intelligence for predictive policing. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber responds to these inquiries. - NYPD is not …

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NYPD's social media monitoring practices and safeguards for protected speech

Council Member Yusef Salaam inquires about the NYPD's social media monitoring practices and the safeguards in place to protect free speech. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber responds to these concerns. - …

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Q&A

Allegations of unauthorized surveillance of Black Lives Matter activists

Council Member Yusef Salaam brings up a lawsuit alleging unauthorized surveillance of Black Lives Matter activists, contradicting earlier testimony about no breaches of protocol. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber responds to …

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Council Member Brewer questions NYPD on data sharing and open data portal

Council Member Gale Brewer inquires about the NYPD's data sharing practices, specifically focusing on what information could be made available on the open data portal. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber discusses …

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NYPD's use of AI technologies in Patternizer, ShotSpotter, and facial recognition

Council Member Gutiérrez questions NYPD officials about their use of AI technologies, contrary to previous testimony. Deputy Commissioner Gerber confirms that the NYPD uses AI in three tools: Patternizer, ShotSpotter, …

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47 sec

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NYPD's compliance with the citywide AI action plan

Council Member Gutiérrez inquires about NYPD's plans to comply with the citywide AI action plan. Deputy Commissioner Gerber responds, highlighting challenges in implementing the broad plan. - Gerber confirms NYPD …

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Q&A

Vendor identification for NYPD's electromagnetic weapons detection system

Council Member Gutiérrez asks for confirmation of the vendor name for the electromagnetic weapons detection system mentioned in an IUP document. Deputy Commissioner Gerber identifies the vendor as Evolve. - …

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NYPD's policies on sharing facial recognition data with other agencies

Council Member Gutiérrez questions NYPD officials about their policies for sharing facial recognition data with agencies outside the NYPD. Deputy Commissioner Gerber and Chief Savino provide insights into the department's …

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Q&A

Process for agencies to request facial recognition assistance from NYPD

Council Member Gutiérrez inquires about the process and policy for other agencies to request facial recognition technology assistance from NYPD. Chief Savino and Deputy Commissioner Gerber provide details on the …

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103 sec

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NYPD's use of facial recognition technology from other agencies

Council Member Gutiérrez asks if NYPD uses facial recognition technology obtained from other agencies. Chief Savino and Deputy Commissioner Gerber provide information on the department's practices. - NYPD primarily uses …

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47 sec

Q&A

NYPD's data purchasing practices from private companies

Council Member Gutiérrez inquires about NYPD's practices of purchasing data from private companies, particularly DNA companies. Deputy Commissioner Gerber responds to the question. - Gerber states that the officials present …

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Information sharing between NYPD and federal law enforcement partners

Council Member Gutiérrez questions NYPD officials about information sharing practices with federal law enforcement partners. Deputy Commissioner Gerber provides details on the department's policies and practices. - NYPD shares information …

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81 sec

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Concerns about NYPD data being accessed by ICE and impact on vulnerable communities

Council Member Gutiérrez expresses concerns about the vulnerability of constituents, particularly regarding ICE access to NYPD data. Deputy Commissioner Gerber responds to these concerns and clarifies NYPD's stance on civil …

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150 sec

Q&A

Control over NYPD data once shared with task forces

Council Member Gutiérrez inquires about NYPD's control over data once it's shared with task forces. Deputy Commissioner Gerber explains the limitations of NYPD's control and the nature of task force …

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99 sec

Q&A

Community concerns about non-transparent use of surveillance tools

Council Member Gutiérrez expresses community concerns about the non-transparent use of surveillance tools and the potential risks to vulnerable populations. Deputy Commissioner Gerber responds to these concerns. - Gutiérrez highlights …

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98 sec

Q&A

Procurement of surveillance tools for NYPD by other agencies

Council Member Gutiérrez inquires about the practice of other agencies purchasing surveillance tools on behalf of NYPD. Deputy Commissioner Gerber responds to these questions. - Gutiérrez mentions a specific purchase …

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83 sec

Q&A

Clarification on facial recognition website and discussion of protocol breaches

Council Member Cabán challenges the NYPD's claims about their facial recognition website and questions whether there have been breaches of protocol in surveillance technology use. Deputy Commissioner Gerber acknowledges that …

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114 sec

Q&A

Discussion on false convictions and arrests related to surveillance technology

Council Member Cabán questions Deputy Commissioner Gerber about false convictions resulting from facial recognition technology. Gerber states he is unaware of any such cases, but Cabán emphasizes the distinction between …

1:40:02

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34 sec

Q&A

Procedures for documenting and preserving drone-related discovery materials

Council Member Cabán inquires about the NYPD's procedures for documenting and preserving discovery materials related to the drone as a first responder program. Deputy Commissioner Gerber explains the process of …

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76 sec

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Debate on NYPD's compliance with discovery laws

Council Member Cabán presses Deputy Commissioner Gerber to quantify the NYPD's compliance rate with discovery laws, particularly in relation to drone-related materials. Gerber maintains that the department strives for complete …

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Q&A

Allegations of NYPD not preserving drone-related discovery materials

Council Member Cabán confronts Deputy Commissioner Gerber with allegations that the NYPD is not properly documenting and preserving discovery materials related to the drone program. Gerber strongly denies any intentional …

1:43:16

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135 sec

Q&A

NYPD drone deployment scenarios

Council Member Chi Osse inquires about the various scenarios in which the NYPD deploys drones. Michael Eichner, Commanding Officer of the Drone Team, explains that drones are used in situations …

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Q&A

NYPD drone data retention policies

Council Member Chi Osse inquires about the NYPD's data retention policies for drone footage. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber explains the department's practices regarding data storage and deletion. - The baseline …

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59 sec

Q&A

Third-party services for NYPD surveillance technologies

Council Member Chi Osse inquires about the NYPD's use of third-party services and programs for surveillance technologies. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber provides information on the department's practices and policies regarding …

1:47:45

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90 sec

Q&A

NYPD's use of AI technologies

Council Member Chi Osse inquires about the NYPD's use of artificial intelligence (AI) technologies. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber explains the department's current AI applications and how they are integrated into …

1:49:15

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66 sec

Q&A

Protection of bystander data in NYPD drone footage

Council Member Chi Osse inquires about the NYPD's practices for protecting bystander data captured in drone footage during non-criminal investigations such as floods or building collapses. The NYPD representatives provide …

1:50:21

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117 sec

Q&A

Council Member Paladino questions NYPD on transparency and ICE cooperation

Council Member Vickie Paladino engages in a Q&A session with NYPD Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber, focusing on the department's transparency under the POST Act and its cooperation with ICE. Gerber …

1:52:24

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3 min

REMARKS

Council Member Ayala shares concerns about ICE and immigrant rights

Council Member Diana I. Ayala recounts a personal anecdote from her time as a city council staffer, highlighting the risks faced by undocumented immigrants in the criminal justice system. She …

1:56:40

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78 sec

Q&A

Council Member Ayala inquires about NYPD's DNA database

Council Member Diana I. Ayala questions why the NYPD's DNA database, reportedly containing 82,473 genetic profiles including samples from children, is not listed in the report. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber …

1:57:59

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47 sec

Q&A

NYPD's methods for obtaining DNA samples explained

Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber outlines the three main ways the NYPD obtains DNA samples: by consent, through abandonment samples, and by court order. He elaborates on the various contexts in …

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53 sec

Q&A

Debate on ethics and legality of 'abandoned' DNA collection

Council Member Diana I. Ayala and Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber engage in a debate about the ethics and legality of collecting DNA from items left behind by individuals, particularly those …

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3 min

Q&A

Clarification on the composition of the local DNA database

Josh Levin, Director of Legislative Affairs for the NYPD, provides additional context about the composition of the local DNA database. He clarifies that a significant majority of individuals in the …

2:02:57

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53 sec

Q&A

Council Member Farías and Deputy Commissioner Gerber discuss reporting frequency for POST Act bill

Council Member Amanda Farías and Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber discuss the frequency of reporting for a proposed bill related to the POST Act. They debate whether quarterly reporting is necessary …

2:03:52

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148 sec

Q&A

NYPD cooperation with federal authorities on criminal investigations

Council Member Holden inquires about the NYPD's cooperation with federal authorities on various criminal activities. Deputy Commissioner Gerber confirms that the NYPD readily cooperates with federal agencies on a wide …

2:06:26

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69 sec

Q&A

NYPD's information and technology sharing practices with federal agencies

Deputy Commissioner Gerber explains the NYPD's approach to sharing information and technology with federal agencies in the context of joint investigations and task forces. - Information sharing is fluid and …

2:07:35

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70 sec

Q&A

NYPD's stance on immigration status in criminal investigations

Deputy Commissioner Gerber clarifies the NYPD's position on immigration status in relation to criminal investigations. - The NYPD does not consider immigration status when investigating crimes - The focus is …

2:08:45

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Q&A

Improvements and usage of facial recognition technology in NYPD investigations

Deputy Commissioner Gerber discusses the improvements in facial recognition technology and its role in NYPD investigations, emphasizing the importance of human involvement in the process. - Facial recognition technology has …

2:09:27

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135 sec

Q&A

Council Member Brewer questions NYPD on data practices, drone usage, and open data compliance

Council Member Gale Brewer questioned Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber about NYPD's data practices, drone usage, and compliance with open data requirements. The discussion covered the department's policies on selling data, …

2:11:43

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171 sec

Q&A

NYPD's current stance on predictive policing tools

Council Member Yusef Salaam inquires about the NYPD's use of AI for predictive policing. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber confirms that the department currently does not use or have plans to …

2:14:41

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72 sec

Q&A

Status of NYPD's electromagnetic weapons detection systems

Council Member Yusef Salaam inquires about the deployment of electromagnetic weapons detection systems by the NYPD. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber reveals that the program was a pilot that has concluded …

2:15:54

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80 sec

Q&A

NYPD's compliance with POST Act and IUP grouping practices

Council Member Yusef Salaam questions the NYPD's compliance with the POST Act, particularly regarding the grouping of surveillance technologies under existing Impact and Use Policies (IUPs). Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber …

2:17:17

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4 min

Q&A

Discussion on data retention policies in NYPD's Impact and Use Policies

Council Member Jennifer Gutiérrez questions NYPD Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber about the lack of specificity in data retention procedures highlighted in DOI's recommendations. Gerber explains that while they often address …

2:21:59

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139 sec

Q&A

Questions about NYPD's contract with Evolve for electromagnetic weapons detection system

Council Member Jennifer Gutiérrez inquires about NYPD's contract with Evolve for an electromagnetic weapons detection system, raising concerns about lawsuits and federal investigations. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber provides limited information …

2:24:19

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87 sec

Q&A

Inquiry into OTI's role in approving NYPD surveillance technology

Council Member Jennifer Gutiérrez questions NYPD Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber about the Office of Technology and Innovation's (OTI) role in approving surveillance technology for the department. Gerber provides limited information …

2:26:21

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66 sec

Q&A

Discussion on NYPD's demonstration projects and pilot programs

Council Member Jennifer Gutiérrez inquires about NYPD's involvement in demonstration projects and pilot programs for surveillance technologies. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber provides limited information, citing the Evolve pilot as an …

2:27:26

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40 sec

Q&A

Inquiry into NYPD's special expense purchase contracts (SPEC agreements)

Council Member Jennifer Gutiérrez questions NYPD Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber about the confidentiality of special expense purchase contracts (SPEC agreements). Gerber explains the historical context and recent developments regarding their …

2:28:07

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58 sec

Q&A

Questions about NYPD's potential access to MyCity portal data

Council Member Jennifer Gutiérrez inquires about NYPD's potential access to data from the MyCity portal, a centralized platform for city services. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber is unfamiliar with the portal …

2:29:06

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126 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Jerome Greco, Digital Forensic Director of the Legal Aid Society, on NYPD Surveillance Technology and POST Act Compliance

Jerome Greco, Digital Forensic Director at the Legal Aid Society, provided testimony challenging NYPD statements on surveillance technology use and POST Act compliance. He highlighted issues with drone usage documentation, …

2:35:42

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4 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Cynthia Conti-Cook, Director of Research and Policy at Surveillance Resistance Lab

Cynthia Conti-Cook, representing the Surveillance Resistance Lab and the Street Vendor Project, testified on the NYPD's use of surveillance technologies, particularly those used in coordination with other agencies. She highlighted …

2:40:28

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3 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by David Siffert, Legal Director of Surveillance Technology Oversight Project (S.T.O.P.)

David Siffert, Legal Director of S.T.O.P., testified on the implementation of the POST Act and proposed amendments to improve surveillance technology oversight in NYC. He highlighted ongoing concerns about transparency, …

2:44:36

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4 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Talia Kamran, Staff Attorney at Brooklyn Defender Services Seizure and Surveillance Defense Project, on NYPD Surveillance and POST Act Implementation

Talia Kamran, representing Brooklyn Defender Services, critiqued the NYPD's implementation of the POST Act, highlighting concerns about transparency, racial bias in surveillance technologies, and the need for stronger oversight. She …

2:48:41

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3 min

Q&A

Impact of Operation Roosevelt on undocumented individuals

Council Member Cabán discusses Operation Roosevelt with panelists, focusing on its impact on undocumented street vendors and survival sex workers. The conversation highlights how surveillance technology is used in these …

2:52:22

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110 sec

Q&A

Deportation risks without criminal conviction

Council Member Cabán and panelists discuss the potential for deportation without criminal conviction, particularly for sex workers and unlicensed vendors. They emphasize that certain activities can be grounds for deportation …

2:54:12

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72 sec

Q&A

NYPD's lack of transparency on surveillance contracts

Jerome Greco from Legal Aid Society discusses the ongoing struggle to obtain transparency regarding NYPD's surveillance contracts. He highlights the difficulties in accessing budget records and the NYPD's efforts to …

2:55:24

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3 min

REMARKS

Council members' closing remarks and follow-up actions

Council Members Gale Brewer and Jennifer Gutiérrez make closing remarks and inquire about follow-up actions regarding the issues discussed in the hearing. - Brewer suggests sending follow-up letters on facial …

2:58:36

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57 sec

Q&A

Discussion on increasing transparency in NYPD's use of surveillance technology

Council Member Yusef Salaam asks panel members about steps to increase transparency in NYPD's use of surveillance technology. Panelists discuss the need for good faith efforts, specific transparency in data …

2:59:38

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4 min

Q&A

Concerns about NYPD's use of augmented reality tools

Council Member Yusef Salaam inquires about issues and privacy concerns related to NYPD's augmented reality tools. David Siffert from S.T.O.P. responds, explaining the tool's function and potential privacy risks. - …

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Q&A

Question about DNA database issues

Council Member Yusef Salaam asks Brooklyn Defenders to elaborate on issues associated with a DNA database mentioned in their December 2023 testimony. Talia Kamran responds that she will need to …

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22 sec

Q&A

Discussion on the effectiveness and impact of ShotSpotter technology

Council Member Yusef Salaam inquires about the effectiveness of ShotSpotter and its impact on criminal convictions or plea bargaining. Panel members discuss various concerns and issues related to the technology. …

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152 sec

Q&A

Assessment of POST Act effectiveness and other surveillance oversight laws

Council Member Yusef Salaam asks advocates to assess the effectiveness of recent legislation such as the POST Act and other laws related to surveillance technology oversight. Panel members discuss the …

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5 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Sharon Brown on Facial Recognition Technology and Public Safety

Sharon Brown testifies about concerns regarding the use of facial recognition technology by law enforcement, emphasizing its potential inaccuracies and suggesting limitations on its use in criminal proceedings. She also …

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3 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Alex Stein, Member of the Public

Alex Stein provides testimony focusing on illegal immigrants and the use of facial recognition technology. He makes inflammatory remarks about Venezuelan immigrants and advocates for deportation with some exceptions. - …

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123 sec

REMARKS

Council Member Salaam addresses inappropriate comments and attempts to redirect

Council Member Yusef Salaam responds to inappropriate comments made by a member of the public, Alex Stein. Salaam attempts to maintain decorum and redirect the conversation to stay on topic. …

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47 sec

REMARKS

Council Member Salaam addresses First Amendment concerns and concludes the exchange

Council Member Yusef Salaam continues to address Alex Stein's inappropriate comments while attempting to maintain order and focus on the meeting's topic. He clarifies the limits of free speech in …

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17 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Christopher Leon Johnson, Member of the Public, on the POST Act and NYPD Surveillance Technology

Christopher Leon Johnson testifies against the POST Act, arguing for the need of surveillance technology to address crime concerns, particularly related to immigrants. He criticizes the City Council's efforts to …

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93 sec

REMARKS

Council Member Salaam addresses disruptive testimony

Council Member Yusef Salaam responds to a disruptive testimony from Christopher Leon Johnson, maintaining order in the hearing. - Salaam repeatedly attempts to redirect Johnson and conclude his testimony - …

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14 sec

REMARKS

Council Member Salaam provides hearing instructions and calls next panel

Council Member Yusef Salaam reiterates the rules and procedures for the public hearing on the NYPD POST Act and related introductions. - Reminds attendees about decorum, video recording restrictions, and …

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3 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Ivey Dyson, Counsel on the Liberty and National Security Program at Brennan Center for Justice

Ivey Dyson from the Brennan Center for Justice testified on the NYPD's implementation of the POST Act, highlighting concerns about the department's compliance and suggesting improvements to strengthen oversight of …

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3 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Quincy Blair, Attorney from Policing Project at NYU School of Law

Quincy Blair, representing the Policing Project at NYU School of Law, testified in support of three bills aimed at enhancing police surveillance transparency and accountability in New York City. He …

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131 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Sergio De La Pava, Legal Director of New York County Defender Services

Sergio De La Pava testifies about the current state of surveillance in New York City, highlighting concerns about transparency, accountability, and potential abuses of surveillance technology by the NYPD. He …

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4 min

Q&A

Council Member Gutiérrez inquires about undisclosed surveillance technologies and predictive policing

Council Member Jennifer Gutiérrez engages in a Q&A session, focusing on two main topics: undisclosed surveillance technologies used by the NYPD and concerns about predictive policing software. - Sergio De …

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140 sec

Q&A

Council Member Brewer questions data retention and sharing policies

Council Member Gale Brewer inquires about data retention and sharing policies related to surveillance technologies used by the NYPD. Ivey Dyson from the Brennan Center responds, highlighting the need for …

3:40:31

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93 sec

REMARKS

Council Member Salaam provides procedural instructions for public testimony

Council Member Yusef Salaam delivers procedural instructions for the public hearing, outlining the rules for public testimony and participation. - Reminds attendees to observe decorum and remain silent during the …

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142 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Michelle Ann Blominville, Health Educator and Adjunct Lecturer at NYU

Michelle Ann Blominville, a health educator and adjunct lecturer at NYU, provided testimony on behalf of individuals claiming to be victims of Havana syndrome or anomalous health incidents. She requested …

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3 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Colin Buckingham, Disability Advocate and Activist

Colin Buckingham, a disability advocate and activist, expresses support for the bills and resolutions passed, while calling for increased accountability and oversight of the NYPD, particularly regarding facial recognition technology, …

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3 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Pastor Adlerette Kebreau on Surveillance Technologies

Pastor Adlerette Kebreau testifies about the use of direct energy weapons and microwave radiation technologies, urging the council to investigate and ban these invisible surveillance tools. She emphasizes the need …

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179 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Andrew, Member of the Public

Andrew, a member of the public, testifies about his personal experiences with alleged police misconduct and surveillance, claiming ongoing harassment that has severely impacted his life. He requests an investigation …

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121 sec

Q&A

Council Member Salaam questions Andrew about his concerns

Council Member Yusef Salaam engages in a brief Q&A session with Andrew, a member of the public who has raised concerns about law enforcement actions against him. Salaam attempts to …

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77 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Michael Sisitzky, Assistant Policy Director of New York Civil Liberties Union, on NYPD Surveillance Technology Oversight

Michael Sisitzky from the New York Civil Liberties Union testified on the importance of strengthening the POST Act and improving oversight of NYPD's surveillance technologies. He expressed strong support for …

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3 min

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Nina Loshkajian, Technology and Racial Justice Collaborative Fellow at the Center on Race, Inequality, and the Law at NYU School of Law

Nina Loshkajian urges the NYC City Council to pass Intros 480 and 168 with recommended amendments to enhance transparency and oversight of NYPD surveillance technologies. She emphasizes the importance of …

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170 sec

PUBLIC TESTIMONY

Testimony by Thomas Gilbert, Founder and CEO of Hortus AI, on AI and Surveillance Technology Oversight

Thomas Gilbert, founder and CEO of Hortus AI, testified on the importance of public oversight for AI and surveillance technologies in New York City. He drew parallels between historical urban …

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3 min

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