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Questions about NYPD's contract with Evolve for electromagnetic weapons detection system

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Council Member Jennifer Gutiérrez inquires about NYPD's contract with Evolve for an electromagnetic weapons detection system, raising concerns about lawsuits and federal investigations. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber provides limited information due to his focus on the POST Act aspects of the project.

Gerber unable to comment on NYPD's awareness of investigations prior to the pilot program
Confirmation that the pilot program with Evolve has concluded and is no longer in use
Discussion highlights potential gaps in NYPD's vetting process for technology vendors

Jennifer Gutiérrez

2:24:19

My next question is regarding the contract with Evolve.

Michael Gerber

2:24:28

Okay.

Jennifer Gutiérrez

2:24:28

Yeah.

2:24:30

So I know that there's been a little bit of misleading statements around the capability of the technology and I'm referring to the electromagnetic weapons detection system.

2:24:46

Evolve is who the vendor is correct?

2:24:47

Yeah.

2:24:48

Okay.

2:24:49

So just curious because I know that there's been multiple lawsuits and maybe a federal investigation or two.

2:24:56

So my question is if the NYPD was aware of these investigations prior to establishing the pilot program with Evolve?

Michael Gerber

2:25:04

I really can't speak to that.

2:25:06

I mean, I was involved frankly in the IUP part of

Jennifer Gutiérrez

2:25:10

it.

2:25:10

Okay.

Michael Gerber

2:25:11

So I can speak to the post act piece for Evolve, and I can speak also to kind of the Fourth Amendment considerations that went into kind of the program in terms of the special needs exception that we described in the IUP.

2:25:29

But in terms of like the contract, you know, business dealings would evolve, I I really can't speak to that.

Jennifer Gutiérrez

2:25:35

This is no.

2:25:37

And is the pilot ongoing?

Michael Gerber

2:25:39

No.

2:25:39

No.

2:25:39

No.

2:25:39

The pilot concluded long ago, many months ago now.

Jennifer Gutiérrez

2:25:44

Okay.

Michael Gerber

2:25:44

And it's it's not in use at all.

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