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Clarification on criteria for gang database entry
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A tense exchange occurs between Council Member Cabán and NYPD officials as they clarify the specific criteria for entering individuals into the gang database, particularly focusing on the role of school safety agents as independent sources.
- Cabán persistently questions whether two school safety agents can serve as the two independent sources required for database entry
- NYPD officials initially avoid directly answering, emphasizing that multiple criteria must be met
- After repeated questioning, officials confirm that two separate school safety agents could potentially serve as independent sources
- The exchange highlights the complexity and potential ambiguity in the database entry criteria
Tiffany Cabán
1:42:49
party So to school safety agents?
Michael Gerber
1:42:50
Hold hold on
Ashanti Baptiste
1:42:51
a second.
Michael Gerber
1:42:51
And As it's two separate independent sources and
Tiffany Cabán
1:42:56
So it could be
Althea V. Stevens
1:42:56
two and investors.
1:42:57
I'm clarifying.
Tiffany Cabán
1:42:58
It could be two school safety agents.
1:43:00
Right?
Michael Gerber
1:43:00
Two independent individuals.
1:43:02
No.
1:43:03
No.
1:43:03
But there's more to it.
1:43:04
You can get
Tiffany Cabán
1:43:05
it on.
1:43:05
Just answer my question.
Michael LiPetri
1:43:07
I'm trying
Michael Gerber
1:43:07
to I'm I'm trying to answer your question.
Tiffany Cabán
1:43:09
Yes or no.
1:43:10
Could it include two social
Michael Gerber
1:43:12
And other things as well.
1:43:14
That alone will not do it.
Tiffany Cabán
1:43:16
That was not my question.
Michael Gerber
1:43:17
It was your question.
1:43:18
It's really simple.
Althea V. Stevens
1:43:19
Was your question.
Tiffany Cabán
1:43:19
I asked, could those two independent people be school safety agents?
Michael Gerber
1:43:23
That's not sufficient.
1:43:24
You're making it like that would
Tiffany Cabán
1:43:25
be sufficient.
1:43:26
Question.
1:43:26
If
Michael Gerber
1:43:27
the question is, is two school safety agents separately
Tiffany Cabán
1:43:32
Do they count as independent?
Michael Gerber
1:43:33
Is that is sufficient?
1:43:34
The answer is no.
1:43:35
Could does that contribute in
Tiffany Cabán
1:43:37
an That's not what I said.
1:43:38
I am okay.
1:43:39
You listed out a few requirements for getting on the list.
1:43:42
I am asking you about one of the requirements.
1:43:45
Right.
1:43:46
The independent cooperations.
1:43:49
And I said, does would two separate school safety agents be that?
Michael Gerber
1:43:53
You are And they you are misstating the criteria.
1:43:57
It's not I'm
Tiffany Cabán
1:43:58
asking about one part of the criteria.
Michael Gerber
1:43:59
Okay.
1:44:00
So I wanna be crystal clear for the record.
1:44:02
There is if if someone has been identified as part of an ongoing investigation and and there are two separate independent reliable sources k.
1:44:13
That person is eligible to be entered potentially every
Tiffany Cabán
1:44:16
My question is
Jason Savino
1:44:17
Yes.
Tiffany Cabán
1:44:17
For the the that part of it, that eligibility
Michael Gerber
1:44:20
Yes.
Tiffany Cabán
1:44:21
Can it be to school safety agents?
Michael Gerber
1:44:25
Two separately?
1:44:26
Yes.
1:44:26
Yes.
Celine Zhu
1:44:27
How
Tiffany Cabán
1:44:28
how hard was that?
1:44:29
How hard was that?
Michael Gerber
1:44:30
Council member, you were missing the criteria.
Tiffany Cabán
1:44:33
No.
1:44:33
I'm asking you Yes.
1:44:34
You were.
1:44:35
Criteria is this big, and I'm choosing to ask you about one part of the criteria.
1:44:40
It's not missing anything.
Michael Gerber
1:44:41
Yes.
Nantasha Williams
1:44:41
Of I'm
Tiffany Cabán
1:44:41
asking you about one part.
1:44:42
It's real simple.
1:44:44
By the way, I don't know if you know this, but you guys make yourself look a lot worse when you play games with the most simple of questions.
Michael Gerber
1:44:52
We are not playing games.
1:44:53
We are answering your question to
Christina Chaise
1:44:55
the rest
Michael Gerber
1:44:55
of our
Tiffany Cabán
1:44:55
Thank you.