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Guidelines for storing DNA samples and obtaining samples from suspects
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The discussion focuses on guidelines for storing DNA samples and the methods for obtaining samples from suspects who have not been arrested.
- Gerber outlines three avenues for obtaining DNA samples: court order, consent, and abandonment
- He notes that these methods are well-established under the law
- Chief Lipetri provides examples of when DNA might be collected, such as from discarded items during an investigation or from an arrested person suspected of other serious crimes
- The officials emphasize that DNA collection is targeted and used for solving serious crimes
Yusef Salaam
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What guidelines exist relating to the storage of DNA samples collected from suspects and arrestees?
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Are samples stored indefinitely and how does the NYPD use those samples included in the DNA database?
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I think that might have been kind of answered a bit.
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But what I'll follow-up with is what policies exist regarding when the when the NYPD can seek to obtain DNA samples from an individual suspected of a crime but not arrested?
Michael Gerber
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So so again, there would be there would be really three different avenues.
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One is a a court order.
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Right?
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One is consent, and then one is abandonment.
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And those are all I I will say those are all three avenues well established under the law.
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There's case law about sort of the showing for a court order.
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There's case law about, you know, what constitutes valid consent.
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There's case law about what constitutes abandonment.
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But those are really the three options.
Yusef Salaam
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So in what circumstances would the department seek to obtain a judicial warrant to collect a DNA sample?
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And when would the NYPD seek to obtain a DNA sample via an individual consenting to provide such a sample to the department collecting the sample surreptitiously?
Michael LiPetri
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As far as getting DNA from a suspect?
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I'm sorry, I just want to make sure I understand the question.
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Yes.
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Okay, so I can give you many examples, but I'll give you one example.
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During a Well, the I
Yusef Salaam
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just want to add the clarifying point of suspected of, but not arrested.
Michael LiPetri
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Right.
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So there's like I said, there are many examples, but I'll start with this.
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During a course of an investigation by our detective bureau for a serious crime, Video shows that suspect at the time discarding a water bottle, a cigarette, whatever it might be.
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That would hopefully be collected by our sharp detectors and then ultimately checked for, you know against our DNA database.
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So that's an example.
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Another example is somebody arrested for a serious crime, a gun arrest, and that person is also suspected of other serious crimes.
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Whether it be shots fired, whether it be a shooting incident, and that person does not have DNA on file.
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It is opportunity to get an abandonment sample when that person is arrested though suspected in other serious crimes to help us solve ultimately that case to get probable cause.