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Debate on proposed legislation for prosecutor access to police evidence
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Council Member Cabán questions NYPD Commissioner Tisch about proposed state legislation (S613/A825) that would provide prosecutors with direct access to police evidence.
- Cabán asks for NYPD's position on the proposed bill
- Commissioner Tisch argues the bill won't 'move the needle' as prosecutors already have access to major systems
- Tisch emphasizes the need for measures that will address the 'surging recidivism crisis'
- Discussion on current systems of information sharing between NYPD and prosecutors
Tiffany Cabán
1:28:59
Are you aware of legislation introduced at the state level that would provide prosecutors with direct access to pub police evidence?
1:29:05
It's actually s six one three in the assembly at eight two five.
1:29:09
What's your position on that bill?
Michael LiPetri
1:29:10
I'll answer the first one.
Jessica Tisch
1:29:11
I'll I'll do it.
1:29:12
I am aware of that proposed legislation, and my feedback on it is that that does not and will not move the needle because as the prosecutor's offices know, they already have direct access to the major systems that they use or they require for discovery purposes.
1:29:39
Among them, they get all their case files from our detectives directly.
1:29:45
The detectives, when they finish their DD5s, they press a button and it sends it directly to the prosecutors.
1:29:54
Same type of thing happens with our body cameras.
1:29:59
Is there a
Tiffany Cabán
1:29:59
form in allowing that direct access?
1:30:02
Like do you support that bill or do you not support that bill?
Jessica Tisch
1:30:05
Interested.
1:30:08
We are facing a surging recidivism crisis in New York City.
1:30:12
I am not interested in half measures or window dressing.
1:30:16
I am only interested in things that are going to move the needle.
1:30:20
And my feedback on that bill specifically is that it's a distraction.
1:30:25
It will not move the needle.
1:30:26
And that is because our prosecuting our prosecutorial partners already have direct access to the vast majority of data that they use and produce.
Michael Gerber
1:30:37
And if I may just follow-up on that.
Althea Stevens
1:30:39
Okay.
Michael Gerber
1:30:39
So The way the system works now, right, is the electronic case file
Lincoln Restler
1:30:43
I understand.
1:30:43
Wait.
1:30:44
Hold on.
Michael Gerber
1:30:44
I'm just answering your question.
1:30:46
It gets pushed out to the DA's office already.
Yusef Salaam
1:30:50
But the extent
Michael Gerber
1:30:51
we're speaking about to the extent we're speaking about the case file itself, they already get that.
Yusef Salaam
1:30:55
Well, let's let let's let him respond real quick, I'll I'll make sure that you are able to, follow-up.
Michael LiPetri
1:31:01
I just wanna answer the first question for the disparity.
1:31:04
It's very clear.
1:31:05
It's about volume.
1:31:06
In 2023, the NYPD arrested almost 62,000 individuals for nonviolent felony offenses.
1:31:13
There is no other agency in the city that even comes close.
Tracy Mulet
1:31:15
In the state.
Michael LiPetri
1:31:16
In 02/2023, we made a 25,000 misdemeanor arrests.
1:31:22
And for violent felony arrests, we made almost 40,000.
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So as far as the disparity, volume has a big issue.
Jessica Tisch
1:31:29
And I I'd like to add one I'm very
Tiffany Cabán
1:31:31
hopeful, though, to under understand that that the the systems around those other jurisdictions are are based on size.
1:31:38
And, yes, so I I I think it's misleading to say just because the numbers are higher.
1:31:42
They have the same apparatus that you have at a smaller scale and doing their jobs.
1:31:48
They're not experiencing these bigger dismissals.
1:31:50
I wanna move
Michael LiPetri
1:31:50
on DA's office.
Tiffany Cabán
1:31:51
I wanna move on to another line of question.
1:31:54
So, in this
Jonathan Darche
1:31:57
is
Tiffany Cabán
1:31:57
about CCRB.