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Clarification on containerization rules and impact on DSNY resources
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Council Member Abreu raises concerns about the potential impact on DSNY resources if organizations like ACE and BIDs suspend services due to compliance costs. Deputy Commissioner Goodman provides clarification on the containerization rules and DSNY's efforts to work with affected organizations.
- DSNY is unable to quantify the potential impact of suspended supplemental services
- Deputy Commissioner Goodman emphasizes that there is misinformation about the rules and their requirements
- DSNY is working closely with BIDs and other organizations to find solutions and will not issue summonses to those operating in good faith but struggling to comply
Shaun Abreu
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I would like to recognize council member Carr.
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What will be the impact on DSNY's own sanitation resources if organizations like ACE and BIDS are forced to suspend services due to the financial burden of compliance?
Javier Lojan
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As of right now, we really don't know what that impact would be.
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It's hypothetical since we don't know which bids or groups would not continue their work.
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So right now I don't have
Shaun Abreu
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I mean I think the impact would be quite significant.
0:53:49
I see Josh nodding his head.
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Sorry, commissioner, deputy commissioner.
Joshua Goodman
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Mister chair, I just wanna say there's a lot of misinformation out there about this rule and what it requires.
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A business, a resident can't walk down to the street and leave a trash bag behind.
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If that resident or business said, oh no, I'm a nonprofit, they also wouldn't be allowed to leave a trash bag behind.
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We've had so many productive meetings with these organizations, with the bids, with ACE, where they go, well yeah, I guess it's not going to cost nearly as much as I thought.
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Thank you for helping me see that it's not what I thought it was.
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But there are a lot of people who are still talking about this.
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By the time that any sort of enforcement begins, it will have been well over a year since this was first brought up.
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For the smallest bids, there are zero cost solutions.
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For the largest bids, we're working with them closely.
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They don't need financial assistance.
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If it turns out that a bid is operating in good faith but can't comply by January 1, they're not going to receive a summons.
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They are in close contact with us.
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The idea that we would say, everybody has to get their trash off the street except these groups.
0:54:56
This trash is allowed to go off on the street still.
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Clean streets means clean streets for everybody, and we are working so closely with these groups.
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So I really want to emphasize that there's a lot of people who are just as two years ago we sat in here and heard businesses could never get a bin, And then they did.
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Residents could never get a bin.
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And then they did.
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There is a way to solve this and we are working hand in glove with the bids to get this done.
Shaun Abreu
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I mean look, I'm not disagreeing that there's no such thing as magic trash or trash that smells better than other trash or trash that's unsightly and other trash that is beautiful to look at, right?
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But there is a real fiscal financial burden that these bids are facing and so far I feel like there's no real solution on the table for them.
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That is my position and I believe that is the position of many of our colleagues here today.
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I'm now gonna turn over to council member questions.
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Council member Julie Menon.