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Rev. Carlene Thorbs, Chairperson of Queens Community Board 12, on concerns about City of Yes for Housing Opportunity

13:55:31

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Rev. Carlene Thorbs, representing Queens Community Board 12, expresses strong opposition to the City of Yes for Housing Opportunity initiative. She cites lack of environmental impact studies, insufficient infrastructure considerations, and inadequate community engagement as major concerns.

  • Highlights the need for parking in South Jamaica, characterizing it as a driving community
  • Points out that some new apartments in the downtown area of CB 12 are empty with rents starting at $3000
  • Suggests that community conversations should have occurred before the initiative was developed
  • Expresses concern about the fate of existing shelter residents and questions if they will have priority in new housing
  • No environmental impact statement has been conducted
  • Lack of infrastructure considerations (sanitation, schools, water, sewage lines)
  • Parking is necessary in South Jamaica, which is a driving community
  • The proposal would destroy the neighborhood
  • Insufficient community engagement and awareness about City of Yes
  • Existing apartments in downtown area are expensive and some are empty
  • Community Board 12 and other Queens Community Boards do not support City of Yes
  • The area is already carrying the weight of shelters
  • Affordable housing is not truly affordable
  • Concerns about prioritizing new New Yorkers over existing shelter residents
  • The proposal is not a one-size-fits-all solution and should be considered community board by community board

[EXPERIMENTAL]

Which elements of City of Yes for Housing Opportunity were discussed in this testimony?

  • Parking Mandates

The following are AI-extracted quotes and reasoning about which elements of the proposal were discussed in this testimony.

This is a quick, close approximation. Occasionally, the connection between a testimony's transcript and specific elements of City Planning's proposal is tenuous.

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Parking Mandates

"Parking is necessary, especially here in South Jamaica. We are a driving community."

This quote directly addresses the parking mandates element of the proposal. The speaker is arguing against removing parking mandates, stating that parking is necessary in their community, which is contrary to the proposal's aim of removing parking requirements.


About this analysis:

This analysis is done by AI that reasons whether or not a quote from the testimony discusses a particular element of the proposal.

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When an element is explicitly stated in the testimony (e.g. "Universal Affordability Preference" or "UAP"), the analysis is accurate.

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Rev. Carlene Thorbs
13:55:31
Good evening.
13:55:32
Good morning.
13:55:33
Almost.
Dan Garodnick
13:55:34
Good evening and almost.
13:55:36
Good morning.
Rev. Carlene Thorbs
13:55:37
Yes.
Phil Koenigsberg
13:55:41
Well, I
Rev. Carlene Thorbs
13:55:42
won't take up a lot of time.
13:55:43
I'm Reuben Thorpe.
13:55:45
I am the chairperson of Community Board 12, which covers areas of Jamaica, Holland, Saint Albans, South Ozone Park in Springfield Gardens.
13:55:54
I heard a lot tonight, but so many different people.
13:55:59
I'm I'm I guess I'm happy that I'm at the end.
13:56:03
A few things that have already been said no environmental impact statement.
13:56:08
That's what's absolutely needed.
13:56:11
No infrastructure.
13:56:13
Considerations, sanitation schools, water sewage lines.
13:56:17
Parking is necessary, especially here in South Jamaica.
13:56:20
We are a driving community.
13:56:23
This would be destroying our neighborhood.
13:56:25
This is not the answer for us.
13:56:27
At a 59 CB, the 175 meetings, that means only 3 meetings.
13:56:32
Per se being bored.
13:56:34
Only three.
13:56:35
I still talk to people on the street that have no idea what city of yes is about.
13:56:42
CB 12 currently has our downtown area that has been built up with apartments, and some of them are empty.
13:56:49
Their rents are beginning in $3000.
13:56:53
I'd like to thank you, Mister Chairman, for I should've said this first for even having this And I do I agree with miss Vicky Paladino, but there is something else from listening to this whole event from 9:10:30 this morning until now.
13:57:12
It is clear that this is what should have happened before This has taken place before anything was put pen to paper.
13:57:21
These conversations would have helped with the city of yes.
13:57:27
And we wouldn't have to we wouldn't be asking for this to be done over if we had done this part first.
13:57:33
Had these conversations, you all talking to us and to other folks that are in the industry, and we were thrashing it out.
13:57:42
This would have been far more productive.
13:57:44
If this was done first.
13:57:45
The way it is CB 12 with the other CB's and Queen's, we do not support the city of yes.
13:57:51
I will will repeat it again.
13:57:54
We do not support the city of yes.
13:57:56
This is not a cookie cutter situation.
13:57:59
This is a community board by community board.
13:58:02
We have been carrying the weight of shelters in our area.
13:58:07
So to talk about affordable housing, we already know that it is not affordable.
13:58:13
I already have complaints from people who have applied and these apartments are not affordable.
13:58:17
Our concerns are you're talking about the new New Yorkers.
13:58:21
Where were the people?
13:58:22
Where are the people that were in our shelters?
13:58:25
Before they got here.
13:58:27
How did you move them out overnight?
13:58:29
Where did they go?
13:58:31
And with all this new housing that you all are talking about, Will the people that were in the shelters first get first dibs?
13:58:38
Will they be able to be placed first and not be stepped over?
13:58:43
As it seems like they are being is being done here in the city.

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