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            Oversight in engaging with the adjacent school for the 150 Mill Street project
0:50:10
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Council Member Avilés questions the applicant team about their failure to engage with an adjacent pre-K center that would be significantly impacted by the 150 Mill Street project.
- Avilés points out that the applicant team did not mention the pre-K center in their list of engaged neighbors
- The school has reported no conversations with the applicant team in the four years of the application process
- The applicant team attempts to explain the oversight by citing changes in property ownership and the project's timeline
- Avilés emphasizes that the school has been there for more than four years and houses three and four-year-old children
- The council member stresses that failing to engage with a property housing children adjacent to the project site is a significant misstep
- The discussion highlights the importance of comprehensive community engagement in urban development projects
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
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                                        So I guess I'm a little I'm a little concerned that you did not mention any of the other properties on the other side, but you are butted by a school.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:50:19
                                        
                                        A pre k center.
                                    
                                            
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                                        Who has reported to me, they've had no conversations with you or anyone from your team in the time that you have been pursuing this application.
                                    
                                            
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                                        They literally abide in your property.
                                    
                                
                                    Richard Lobel
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:50:33
                                        
                                        Was
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:50:33
                                        
                                        that just an oversight and engagement?
                                    
                                
                                    Willy Pilku
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:50:35
                                        
                                        That property was owned by a private entity, let's say.
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:50:41
                                        
                                        It's a school for children.
                                    
                                
                                    Willy Pilku
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:50:43
                                        
                                        It was sold.
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
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                                        Years and four year olds.
                                    
                                
                                    Willy Pilku
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:50:44
                                        
                                        Yeah.
                                    
                                            
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                                        It was sold in the last couple of years.
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:50:46
                                        
                                        It's been there for a while.
                                    
                                
                                    Willy Pilku
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:50:48
                                        
                                        Yeah.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:50:48
                                        
                                        It's been there for a while, but it was owned privately.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:50:51
                                        
                                        As the owner of the property.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:50:53
                                        
                                        And then it was sold, I believe, to city
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:50:55
                                        
                                        or New York City.
                                    
                                
                                    Willy Pilku
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:50:57
                                        
                                        Right.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:50:57
                                        
                                        And they bought it within the last few years, so I wouldn't know who from New York City to speak to specifically.
                                    
                                            
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                                        Okay.
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:51:02
                                        
                                        You've been working on this for 4 years.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:51:04
                                        
                                        They've been there for 4 years.
                                    
                                
                                    Willy Pilku
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:51:07
                                        
                                        We're working on this longer.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:51:08
                                        
                                        Yeah.
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:51:08
                                        
                                        Yeah.
                                    
                                            
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                                        Longer
                                    
                                
                                    Willy Pilku
                                
                            
                            
                                            
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                                        than they've owned it.
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:51:10
                                        
                                        Okay.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:51:11
                                        
                                        I guess I guess what I'm pointing out is there are a good number of other properties that have bought your property that you have not engaged with.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:51:18
                                        
                                        And as a good neighbor, given construction impacts of any potentiality, that is a huge oversight.
                                    
                                
                                    Nicholas Liberis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:51:26
                                        
                                        I mean, it sounds like as a single neighbor, and this is, like,
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:51:28
                                        
                                        in the eyes of There are more.
                                    
                                            
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                                        So
                                    
                                
                                    Nicholas Liberis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:51:30
                                        
                                        Are there more?
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:51:31
                                        
                                        There are more.
                                    
                                
                                    Nicholas Liberis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:51:32
                                        
                                        I thought it was just just the school.
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:51:35
                                        
                                        There's a church?
                                    
                                            
                                            0:51:36
                                        
                                        Yeah.
                                    
                                            
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                                        There's a food, Bodega, there is a a transitional
                                    
                                
                                    Nicholas Liberis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
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                                        What the Bodega guy
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:51:42
                                        
                                        There's also
                                    
                                
                                    Willy Pilku
                                
                            
                            
                                            
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                                        Same owner as the sanitation.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:51:47
                                        
                                        He owns 4 lots.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:51:49
                                        
                                        It's one guy that owns 4 lots.
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:51:51
                                        
                                        I understand that, but there are other people there as well in addition to the church, in addition to the school.
                                    
                                
                                    Nicholas Liberis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:51:58
                                        
                                        I think it's just just the just the church and the school.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:52:01
                                        
                                        Yeah.
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
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                                        Oh, okay.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:52:02
                                        
                                        So Yeah.
                                    
                                            
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                                        I'm sorry.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:52:03
                                        
                                        One out of the the 3 Yeah.
                                    
                                            
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                                        You spoke to.
                                    
                                            
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                                        Okay.
                                    
                                            
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                                        No.
                                    
                                            
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                                        I don't know.
                                    
                                            
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                                        Exactly.
                                    
                                            
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                                        Well, how much is the
                                    
                                
                                    Nicholas Liberis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
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                                        best time?
                                    
                                            
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                                        5 or 6.
                                    
                                            
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                                        I think we spoke the 4 out of the
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:52:13
                                        
                                        I think my point is there is a school that would be deeply impacted, and you haven't had a conversation with them in the 4 years.
                                    
                                            
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                                        I would That's true.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:52:21
                                        
                                        Yeah.
                                    
                                            
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                                        And that's that's my point.
                                    
                                            
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                                        And I think you're saying you didn't, and that's okay.
                                    
                                            
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                                        And now we know.
                                    
                                            
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                                        And
                                    
                                
                                    Nicholas Liberis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:52:28
                                        
                                        I think the point that that he was making though too was that we've actually been this is our, I think, 7th year doing this because of the the switch from from from Carlos.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:52:38
                                        
                                        You know, when you when you came in, we had to start over, basically.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:52:40
                                        
                                        So So I think that's that's where that comes from, because I think back back then, it was it was not a school.
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:52:49
                                        
                                        Okay.
                                    
                                            
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                                        The time frame continues to change.
                                    
                                            
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                                        The point remains the same.
                                    
                                
                                    Tiffiney Davis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:52:54
                                        
                                        There was
                                    
                                
                                    Nicholas Liberis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
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                                        Haven't been a school business.
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:52:55
                                        
                                        It's been there more than 4 years.
                                    
                                            
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                                        That you have not had a conversation with that houses three four year olds
                                    
                                
                                    Nicholas Liberis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
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                                        Mhmm.
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:53:02
                                        
                                        And staff, and that would be deeply impacted by anything.
                                    
                                
                                    Nicholas Liberis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:53:07
                                        
                                        So I'm
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:53:07
                                        
                                        not saying yes or no.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:53:09
                                        
                                        I'm saying it is a big misstep to have not also engaged a property of children that is right avoiding your property.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:53:18
                                        
                                        That's all I'm saying.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:53:19
                                        
                                        Uh-huh.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:53:19
                                        
                                        I don't think we need to belabor that.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:53:20
                                        
                                        Uh-huh.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:53:21
                                        
                                        I'm just making the quick point.
                                    
                                
                                    Nicholas Liberis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:53:22
                                        
                                        I I would just go I would go
                                    
                                
                                    Richard Lobel
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:53:24
                                        
                                        I think
                                    
                                
                                    Nicholas Liberis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:53:24
                                        
                                        I'm onto the record just to kind of dispute that just because it is it is kind of
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:53:27
                                        
                                        a strange strange character.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:53:28
                                        
                                        I only have 3 minutes, and this is my time to ask you
                                    
                                
                                    Nicholas Liberis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:53:32
                                        
                                        to Yeah.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:53:32
                                        
                                        Sure.
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:53:32
                                        
                                        So I think we're gonna Sure.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:53:33
                                        
                                        Kinda move forward just because we need to get one more questions.
                                    
                                
                                    Nicholas Liberis
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:53:37
                                        
                                        Let's let's go.
                                    
                                
                                    Alexa Avilés
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:53:38
                                        
                                        On.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:53:39
                                        
                                        So we can talk some more afterwards.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:53:41
                                        
                                        Sure.
                                    