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Debate on the necessity of formal agreements with agencies for AI principles
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Council Member Gutiérrez and Alex Foard engage in a debate about the necessity of formal agreements with agencies for implementing AI principles. The discussion reveals differing views on enforcement and implementation strategies.
- Gutiérrez questions whether formal agreements with agencies are necessary to accomplish the goals of the action plan
- Foard explains that the principles were written down to serve as a reference point for OTI's policy development and agency work
- The council member presses on the lack of enforcement mechanisms and specific asks for agencies
- Gutiérrez expresses concern about the effectiveness of the plan without formal enforcement mechanisms
- The debate highlights the tension between OTI's flexible approach and the council's desire for more concrete accountability measures
Jennifer Gutiérrez
0:29:58
Do you think that this is that that that having that written, like, formal agreement with every agency, do you think that that is necessary to accomplishing the goals of the action plan?
Alex Foard
0:30:12
I I mean, I think that's why we wrote the principles down.
0:30:14
We wanted to not just hold those in the in the back of our heads to say, yeah, this is how we wanna approach the AI work in the city.
0:30:20
We put them down on paper for that very reason so that there is that reference point as OTI builds out policy as agencies do their work.
0:30:27
That is
Jennifer Gutiérrez
0:30:27
OTI builds it, but there's no intention for, like, policy of enforcement.
Alex Foard
0:30:32
So, again, the policies that derive from the action plan will be specific to a specific business need.
0:30:38
The principles are there to set that foundation for what we as a city support from an AI perspective.
Jennifer Gutiérrez
0:30:45
But if the goal is for city agencies to utilize this
Darío Maestro
0:30:49
Mhmm.
Jennifer Gutiérrez
0:30:50
But there's no specific ask on how you all will work with them to make sure that it is specific to them and their needs, I guess.
0:31:00
Have y'all talked to the mayor's office of operations?
0:31:02
Like, again, great plan.
0:31:05
Just trying to understand, like, our function at the council is to make sure that stuff works and stuff runs in the city.
0:31:10
Right?
0:31:10
And so I I believe in the work that you all did.
0:31:13
I know it's been a long time coming and is is it a healthy plan y'all if you have not read it.
0:31:18
But if it's not legislation, if you're putting all your confidence in the continued progress of this action plan.
0:31:26
If you're saying none of these bills are necessary because our action plan is gonna cover it, but you're not giving me any confidence that there is going to be an enforcement mechanism to ensure all the things that we're trying to accomplish in the legislation.
0:31:38
So is there a conversation with the mayor's office of operations?
0:31:43
How else have you thought about this outside of the action plan that or the principles?