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Data presentation and analysis of Level 1 stops

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Council Member De La Rosa inquires about the detailed data presentation of Level 1 stops as required by Local Law 43. She emphasizes the need for more granular data analysis to understand the intersectionality of various factors in these encounters. Deputy Commissioner Michael Gerber responds, explaining the current data collection practices and limitations.

De La Rosa highlights the importance of detailed data analysis for Level 1 stops
She requests incident-level data for public transparency
Gerber explains that the NYPD doesn't currently collect data at the level of detail requested
The discussion reveals gaps between the council's data expectations and NYPD's current practices

Carmen N. De La Rosa

2:37:44

Okay.

2:37:44

Let me ask you a few questions regarding, level one stop.

2:37:48

So, Local Law 43 is written and it states, the information shall be disaggregated by the precinct where such an encounter occurred and further disaggregated by the following, apparent race and ethnicity, gender and age, the mem of the member of the public involved.

2:38:05

These the factors leading to the investigative encounter and whether a criminal or civil summons was issued in connection with the encounter, whether the use of force, of the incident is as identified in section 14158 occurred in connection to the encounter, so use of force as well.

2:38:23

And the NYPD is presenting the data for each of those categories by precinct.

2:38:28

However, we haven't seen the data presented in a way that allows for a detailed analysis of how many of these categories relate to one another.

2:38:36

For example, we can't tell how many people of color were stopped at a level 1 for quality of life issues, or how the use of force in these encounter varies based on race and other factors.

2:38:49

So that level of detail is important for us to understand what is occurring when we see the data that is presented to us.

2:38:55

Will the NYPD commit to making the raw incident level data available for the public in the full interest of transparency?

Michael Gerber

2:39:02

So we don't have, I don't think, the data that you're describing with regard to level 1 encounters.

2:39:07

We the way the level 1 data works is we gather it by tour, and, again, consistent with the law.

2:39:12

And I I do think it's important to say.

2:39:14

We we, you know, the we have the you know, we sort of we we have this new law in front of us

Carmen N. De La Rosa

2:39:17

Agreed.

Michael Gerber

2:39:18

And and we're providing it, and we're 1 quarter in.

2:39:21

So so we're gathering that.

2:39:22

We're providing it.

2:39:25

We don't actually gather it in the way I think you're describing.

2:39:28

You're you're describing it basically, gathering it by on an encounter by encounter basis, essentially a separate form for every single encounter.

2:39:38

We actually don't do that.

Diana I. Ayala

2:39:39

Okay.

Michael Gerber

2:39:41

So I I we can't give you what we don't have.

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