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            Debate over criminal activity requirements for database inclusion
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Council Member Cabán and NYPD officials engage in a heated exchange about the criteria for inclusion in the gang database, particularly focusing on whether criminal convictions are necessary and the distinction between arrests and convictions.
- NYPD confirms that evidence of criminal activity is not required for database inclusion
- Officials state that only 1% of individuals in the database have not been arrested
- Cabán emphasizes the difference between arrests, accusations, and convictions
- The debate highlights concerns about due process and the potential for over-inclusion in the database
                                
                                    Michael Gerber
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:13
                                        
                                        Correct?
                                    
                                            
                                            1:41:14
                                        
                                        If your question is, does someone have to have committed a crime order to be in the database?
                                    
                                            
                                            1:41:19
                                        
                                        The answer to that question is no.
                                    
                                
                                    Michael LiPetri
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:21
                                        
                                        And that's okay.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:41:22
                                        
                                        Let me just add to that.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:41:23
                                        
                                        That's 1% of the database.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:41:25
                                        
                                        1%.
                                    
                                
                                    Jason Savino
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:27
                                        
                                        Yeah.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:41:27
                                        
                                        It vast majority of the individuals in the database have committed a multitude of crimes and a multitude of violent crimes.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:41:36
                                        
                                        And that one percent
                                    
                                
                                    Tiffany Cabán
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:37
                                        
                                        Have been convicted of?
                                    
                                
                                    Jason Savino
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:38
                                        
                                        Of I'm sorry.
                                    
                                
                                    Tiffany Cabán
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:40
                                        
                                        Have been convicted of?
                                    
                                
                                    Jason Savino
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:40
                                        
                                        Arrested of.
                                    
                                
                                    Tiffany Cabán
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:41
                                        
                                        Okay.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:41:41
                                        
                                        So they have not been convicted of?
                                    
                                
                                    Jason Savino
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:43
                                        
                                        I have
                                    
                                
                                    Tiffany Cabán
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:44
                                        
                                        not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be of a crime.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:41:48
                                        
                                        They have only been so ninety nine percent of people have been accused of A multi crime on that list.
                                    
                                
                                    Jason Savino
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:53
                                        
                                        Of arrest.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:41:53
                                        
                                        In fact, a very low No.
                                    
                                
                                    Jumaane Williams
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:55
                                        
                                        I think
                                    
                                
                                    Tiffany Cabán
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:55
                                        
                                        you've answered my question.
                                    
                                
                                    Jumaane Williams
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:57
                                        
                                        There's a
                                    
                                
                                    Tiffany Cabán
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:41:57
                                        
                                        difference between accused and arrested and convicted.
                                    
                                
                                    Jason Savino
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:42:01
                                        
                                        And and that one
                                    
                                
                                    Tiffany Cabán
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:42:02
                                        
                                        I'm gonna move on.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:42:03
                                        
                                        Thank you for answering my question.
                                    
                                
                                    Michael LiPetri
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:42:04
                                        
                                        I I have a few more felony.
                                    