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            Guidelines for storing DNA samples and obtaining samples from suspects
0:44:25
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The discussion focuses on guidelines for storing DNA samples and the methods for obtaining samples from suspects who have not been arrested.
- Gerber outlines three avenues for obtaining DNA samples: court order, consent, and abandonment
- He notes that these methods are well-established under the law
- Chief Lipetri provides examples of when DNA might be collected, such as from discarded items during an investigation or from an arrested person suspected of other serious crimes
- The officials emphasize that DNA collection is targeted and used for solving serious crimes
                                
                                    Yusef Salaam
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:44:25
                                        
                                        What guidelines exist relating to the storage of DNA samples collected from suspects and arrestees?
                                    
                                            
                                            0:44:31
                                        
                                        Are samples stored indefinitely and how does the NYPD use those samples included in the DNA database?
                                    
                                            
                                            0:44:37
                                        
                                        I think that might have been kind of answered a bit.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:44:42
                                        
                                        But what I'll follow-up with is what policies exist regarding when the when the NYPD can seek to obtain DNA samples from an individual suspected of a crime but not arrested?
                                    
                                
                                    Michael Gerber
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:44:55
                                        
                                        So so again, there would be there would be really three different avenues.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:44:59
                                        
                                        One is a a court order.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:45:01
                                        
                                        Right?
                                    
                                            
                                            0:45:02
                                        
                                        One is consent, and then one is abandonment.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:45:07
                                        
                                        And those are all I I will say those are all three avenues well established under the law.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:45:11
                                        
                                        There's case law about sort of the showing for a court order.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:45:15
                                        
                                        There's case law about, you know, what constitutes valid consent.
                                    
                                            
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                                        There's case law about what constitutes abandonment.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:45:21
                                        
                                        But those are really the three options.
                                    
                                
                                    Yusef Salaam
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:45:27
                                        
                                        So in what circumstances would the department seek to obtain a judicial warrant to collect a DNA sample?
                                    
                                            
                                            0:45:34
                                        
                                        And when would the NYPD seek to obtain a DNA sample via an individual consenting to provide such a sample to the department collecting the sample surreptitiously?
                                    
                                
                                    Michael LiPetri
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:45:53
                                        
                                        As far as getting DNA from a suspect?
                                    
                                            
                                            0:45:57
                                        
                                        I'm sorry, I just want to make sure I understand the question.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:46:01
                                        
                                        Yes.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:46:02
                                        
                                        Okay, so I can give you many examples, but I'll give you one example.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:46:08
                                        
                                        During a Well, the I
                                    
                                
                                    Yusef Salaam
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:46:13
                                        
                                        just want to add the clarifying point of suspected of, but not arrested.
                                    
                                
                                    Michael LiPetri
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            0:46:18
                                        
                                        Right.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:46:19
                                        
                                        So there's like I said, there are many examples, but I'll start with this.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:46:23
                                        
                                        During a course of an investigation by our detective bureau for a serious crime, Video shows that suspect at the time discarding a water bottle, a cigarette, whatever it might be.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:46:40
                                        
                                        That would hopefully be collected by our sharp detectors and then ultimately checked for, you know against our DNA database.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:46:51
                                        
                                        So that's an example.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:46:53
                                        
                                        Another example is somebody arrested for a serious crime, a gun arrest, and that person is also suspected of other serious crimes.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:47:03
                                        
                                        Whether it be shots fired, whether it be a shooting incident, and that person does not have DNA on file.
                                    
                                            
                                            0:47:11
                                        
                                        It is opportunity to get an abandonment sample when that person is arrested though suspected in other serious crimes to help us solve ultimately that case to get probable cause.
                                    