Your guide to NYC's public proceedings.
Q&A
Questions about inclusion of other known gangs in the database
1:28:11
·
84 sec
Council Member Stevens questions the NYPD about the inclusion of other known gangs, such as Chinese-American gangs and the 'five families,' in the gang database. This leads to a debate about the comprehensiveness and potential bias of the database.
- Stevens asks about the inclusion of the 'ghost shadows' and 'five families' in the database
- NYPD officials mention separate databases for different types of organized crime
- Discussion highlights concerns about potential racial bias in gang classification
- Stevens argues that the database is unnecessary for effective policing in other communities
Althea V. Stevens
1:28:11
Uh-huh.
1:28:11
Have you heard of the five families?
1:28:12
Are are they part of the database?
Michael Gerber
1:28:14
Council member, as you know, there is a separate database.
1:28:17
No.
1:28:17
No.
Althea V. Stevens
1:28:17
No.
1:28:17
No.
1:28:17
No.
1:28:18
Hold on.
Michael Gerber
1:28:18
I'm answering your question.
1:28:19
I'm answering your question.
1:28:34
There is there is there is
Althea V. Stevens
1:28:36
because they are
Michael Gerber
1:28:36
database.
1:28:37
There was also an FBI database, which our TFOs are able to working with the FBI and drawn that.
Althea V. Stevens
1:28:43
I'm asking you about a New York based
Michael Gerber
1:28:45
And I was also gang.
1:28:46
I also York.
Althea V. Stevens
1:28:47
Because in your database, they're only what?
1:28:49
What I think I have the numbers.
1:28:51
What is it like?
1:28:51
There's only, like, 70 of them.
1:28:53
So is that the gang that's in there?
1:28:54
Because I'm asking you a real question.
1:28:56
Because, again, I am saying and why I get so upset and passionate because you guys are willing to go so hard around something that I do not feel like is moving the needle, but it would move the needle in changing your relationship with my community.
1:29:11
It it's not.
1:29:12
And I think that when you're in other communities, you're able to not have databases because crime is going on in other communities and so how are you solving those crimes?
1:29:21
Those crimes are happening but you don't have to have a database to say like, oh, let me go in here and see if they're in here.
1:29:26
No.
1:29:26
You're solving those crimes.
1:29:27
So even if you don't believe that you could do the work, I know you could do the
Michael Gerber
1:29:30
Council member?
Althea V. Stevens
1:29:32
And it would fix the relationship.
1:29:33
I promise you.