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            Discussion on expired contracts for midwives at NYC Health + Hospitals facilities
1:26:48
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Councilmember Sanchez raises concerns about midwives at North Central Bronx and Jacobi hospitals working under expired contracts for nearly two years, with a potential strike looming. Dr. Mitchell Katz, CEO of NYC Health + Hospitals, responds by explaining the situation and his efforts to resolve the contract negotiations.
- The midwives are employees of PAGNY, not directly of the city
- Dr. Katz is working with PAGNY and urging NYSNA (the nurses' union) to respond to the last offer made
- The current pay for these midwives appears low due to city midwives receiving raises while they remain on old rates
- Dr. Katz emphasizes the importance of ongoing negotiations to resolve the issue
                                
                                    Justin L. Brannan
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:26:48
                                        
                                        Midwives at North Central Bronx and Jacobi have been working under an expired contract for nearly two years.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:26:54
                                        
                                        I believe these are NYSNA nurses.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:26:57
                                        
                                        I understand that these midwives are gearing up to go on strike, is we know is always a last resort.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:27:04
                                        
                                        Could you talk about what H and H's role is in ensuring negotiations move forward?
                                    
                                
                                    Mitchell Katz
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:27:09
                                        
                                        Yeah.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:27:10
                                        
                                        I'm on it.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:27:11
                                        
                                        This is, so the particular nurse midwives who are phenomenal, NCB Jacobi has an amazing group of midwives.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:27:23
                                        
                                        Well known throughout the city, one of our most successful midwifery services.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:27:28
                                        
                                        They are employees of PAGNI, not directly of the city.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:27:34
                                        
                                        But now that the issue has been brought to me, I am working with PAGNI.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:27:40
                                        
                                        We believe that what my investigation showed is that there was an offer made by PAGNI.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:27:51
                                        
                                        You know negotiations are always I offer you, then you respond, and then I offer you and you respond.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:27:58
                                        
                                        So the last offer was by Pagni.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:01
                                        
                                        I'm gonna, you know, I want to urge NYSNA to respond.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:08
                                        
                                        Because that's how you ultimately resolve contracts.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:11
                                        
                                        You don't have to agree with the last offer that was made by the employer.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:17
                                        
                                        But part of, you know, union leader once taught me this.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:21
                                        
                                        The importance is not to disagree.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:23
                                        
                                        The importance is ultimately to agree.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:25
                                        
                                        So I hope that I can convince NAISNET to make now a counter offer to the offer that's been made.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:34
                                        
                                        They don't have to accept the offer that's made.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:36
                                        
                                        They can make a counter offer and get the negotiations back on track.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:41
                                        
                                        It's not unusual.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:43
                                        
                                        The city council helped me on the doctor issue.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:46
                                        
                                        Right?
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:47
                                        
                                        Similar kind of issue.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:49
                                        
                                        And we resolved it.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:51
                                        
                                        And there was a vote to strike, we resolved it.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:28:55
                                        
                                        So usually the problem is people need to negotiate.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:29:01
                                        
                                        They need to It's not sufficient to say, you know, it isn't right.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:29:07
                                        
                                        Those midwives are working way below wage, But part of that is because the city midwives have gotten a raise, and they're still on two years ago's rates.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:29:19
                                        
                                        Once they resolve the contract, they will get back pay.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:29:22
                                        
                                        But it makes their current pay look particularly awful and makes it hard to keep people.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:29:27
                                        
                                        So it seems like my job here, as with the doctors, is you gotta negotiate to both sides.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:29:34
                                        
                                        It's gotta be resolved.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:29:36
                                        
                                        We're not gonna live without the midwives.
                                    
                                
                                    Justin L. Brannan
                                
                            
                            
                                            
                                            1:29:39
                                        
                                        Thank you.
                                    
                                            
                                            1:29:41
                                        
                                        We've also been joined by council member Brewer, and now we go back to chair Narcisse.
                                    