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Comparing complexity of proposed reforms: citizens' assembly versus modifying existing processes

2:58:06

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Chair Richard R. Buery Jr. asks Annemarie Gray if her critique of adding complex new processes (like separate appeals boards seen in other states) would also apply to the Comptroller's citizens' assembly proposal.

Gray confirms she finds the citizens' assembly layer specifically adds complexity she finds challenging.

She reiterates the value of starting with existing frameworks like the Fair Housing Framework to avoid overcomplicating reforms initially, while incorporating ideas like broader citizen engagement into reforming existing processes (e.g., CB/BP input).

Richard R. Buery Jr.
2:58:06
Feel free to ignore this question, but would that also apply to the recommendation from controller lander, which would also, I think, create some new processes?
2:58:18
Would would you also sort of say similarly that by creating new processes that is not what you would recommend?
2:58:23
I'm sorry?
Michelle de la Uz
2:58:23
Meaning the assembly idea?
2:58:24
Citizens.
2:58:25
Yeah.
2:58:25
The citizens' assembly.
Dr. Lisette Nieves
2:58:26
Yeah.
2:58:26
Citizens' assembly.
Annemarie Gray
2:58:27
Yeah.
2:58:28
I have talked to their team about some of that.
2:58:31
I I do think that that that does feel very complicated and very challenging to me, that particular layer.
2:58:37
I actually think that citizens' assembly idea and sort of this idea that we should do engagement kind of approach it more the more the way we do jury duty, for example.
2:58:45
That's actually something that we worked in to a different type of our recommendation of how we should rethink about the process of community boards and borough president input in a way.
2:58:54
But I do think that there's something that feels that doesn't quite connect for me for that part of their recommendation.
2:59:00
But as as they said and as I've talked to them a lot, I think, like, this baseline idea that the fair housing framework is a is a backstop and is something that I think you've seen a lot of people agree on, is is the right place to start, and try to not overcomplicate something to start.
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