Gale A. Brewer
                                
                            
                            
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:04:41
                                        
                                        It's a good question.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:04:42
                                        
                                        Way on the controversial projects, it's easy on the ones that are not.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:04:47
                                        
                                        But on the controversial projects, the community goes to the community board, and then the borough president, which has a land use staff, right, that helps, between the two of them, if it's a controversial project, they make changes.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:05:05
                                        
                                        The council makes change.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:05:06
                                        
                                        I mean, the borough president makes changes.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:05:08
                                        
                                        The community board makes changes.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:05:10
                                        
                                        So by the time it gets to the city council, hopefully, there's enough cover.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:05:15
                                        
                                        Because when it's really controversial, it's rough to have to say yes to a very tall building or a very in an area that people don't want housing or they don't like poor people or whatever the hell it is.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:05:27
                                        
                                        Then so I do think that the city council member gets some cover from the borough president, to answer your question, because there is the borough president doesn't have to vote.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:05:38
                                        
                                        They just have to recommend.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:05:40
                                        
                                        Now you can the borough president, when you're there, you feel kind of powerless.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:05:44
                                        
                                        Like, why the hell does the city council get to vote on this?
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:05:48
                                        
                                        But if it's controversial, you might be pleased.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:05:50
                                        
                                        It's a political process.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:05:52
                                        
                                        But I do think the relationship, if the borough president has a good land use staffand the city council has one, toobut it's not just focused on that council member.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:06:03
                                        
                                        So borough president, you lean heavily on what they have to say, and they lean on the community board.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:06:10
                                        
                                        Along the way, to be honest with you, no matter how good staff is, there's not a lot of it.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:06:15
                                        
                                        And it probably could all use some more intelligent thinking about what really is needed.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:06:23
                                        
                                        We're really lacking in thoughtful consideration of what really could be built.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:06:31
                                        
                                        I'm struggling right now.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:06:32
                                        
                                        I'm trying to figure out ABC, XDell, Gary Barnett.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:06:35
                                        
                                        You know, that's a big challenging situation, and we're trying on every level to think outside the box.
                                     
                                
                                    
                                
                                    
                                        
                                            
                                            1:06:44
                                        
                                        There aren't a lot of people who really know land use in the city of New York, to be honest with you.