Q&A
Debate over CUNY's right to enact time, place, and manner restrictions
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Council Member Julie Menin and CUNY General Counsel Derek Davis engaged in a debate about CUNY's right and responsibility to enact time, place, and manner restrictions for protests on campus.
- Menin asserted that CUNY has the right to enact reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions
- Davis argued that CUNY adheres to existing First Amendment interpretations and doesn't redefine these restrictions
- Menin criticized the lack of specific examples of policy changes provided by CUNY officials
- The exchange highlighted disagreements about CUNY's approach to managing protests on campus
Julie Menin
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classes agree.
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You know what?
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I I wanna interrupt you because I say this as as someone who has practiced law for a very long time.
Derek Davis
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So have I.
Julie Menin
1:42:49
I don't agree with what you're saying at all.
1:42:51
As a university, you have the right, and judge Lippmann points it out in his report, to enact and enforce reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions to this idea
Derek Davis
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that you with the law.
Julie Menin
1:43:05
Of course, consistent with the law.
1:43:06
No one is suggesting that you violate the
Derek Davis
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first amendment.
Julie Menin
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I don't think you have because when I asked the chancellor for examples, you seem hard pressed to be able to provide any examples.
1:43:17
And I I I just find your testimony right now incredibly sanctimonious and disrespectful to this committee.
Derek Davis
1:43:23
I'm I apologize if it seems sanctimonious.
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I'm just trying to correct the record.
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But chairman, did it do it?
Eric Dinowitz
1:43:29
Alright.
1:43:29
Well, there's nothing not much correct in meeting up here.
1:43:32
Okay.
1:43:32
And I would have referenced you referenced page 80 to 82 of the report, and I would note judge Littmann while he does not prescribe what definition to use, he does recognize multiple administrations and the state of New York have recognized Ira definition.
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Judge Lippmann recognizes that there is a deep connection between the Jewish people, and and the state of Israel, and that it is important to recognize that.
1:43:56
And so while you while you're reading was that, well, judge Lippmann didn't tell us to do They didn't say that.
1:44:02
At well, it sounded from your testimony.
1:44:04
Like you said, well, judge Lippmann didn't prescribe a specific definition.
1:44:07
He does say clearly, you should have one, and it should be and it should be very clear to the students.
1:44:14
And what I'm saying is there is a lot that is not clear despite what you may or may not put on the website.
1:44:20
Judge judge Lippman does report that there are differences between different policies about where you report 2 things first, what different policies mean.
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So there are differences between your own policies.
1:44:29
So whatever is on the website even conflicts with himself.
1:44:32
That's according to the report.
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Chancellor?
1:44:36
Yeah.
