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Member of the Public on Challenges and Consequences of Reducing Class Sizes in High-Poverty School Districts

3:24:46

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5 min

A member of the public discusses the potential negative impacts of reducing class sizes on high-poverty school districts, using Brownsville as an example.

  • Expresses surprise at learning the Department of Education's arguments related to school and classroom capacity caps.
  • Shares personal anecdotes about their daughter's educational experiences in Brownsville's only gifted and talented school.
  • Highlights the importance of teacher quality in high-need districts and fears the bill will push quality teachers to wealthier schools.
  • Presents 2022-2023 statistics showing a higher percentage of teachers teaching out of their certification in high-poverty schools.
  • Urges the city council and mayor to ensure the class size reduction law benefits high-poverty schools like those in Brownsville.
UNKNOWN
3:24:46
Hello.
3:24:47
Yes.
3:24:48
Good evening, everyone.
3:24:50
Good afternoon.
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Nothing great.
3:24:53
So I come across some new information while sitting down, kinda listening to the arguments of the Department of Education in regards to cap and how many students, you know.
3:25:07
It wasn't just about you know, to captain of students to a school, not just to a classroom.
3:25:16
Like, that was very surprising to me to even hear.
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That argument, especially coming from an area like mine in Brownsville where where the largest concentrated area of public housing and low income people in New York City, period.
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Right?
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And that's district 23 where the 73rd precinct captain came from.
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So that was, like, very surprising to me.
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I'm actually the cochairman of Resident Association, a Youssef engagement committee, and I've been doing that 10 plus years.
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Working with the kids of the inner city.
3:25:48
Right?
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And I'm into construction management.
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I'm an assistant project manager.
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Building is something I like to do.
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So just to read from my
April Blanding
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notes, and
UNKNOWN
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try to stay focused.
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So I have my daughter, name is Takaju, and she's an 11th grader in an Urban Assembly High School for music and arts.
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She's always been into that.
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She was in a junior high school, which is also the only gifted and talented school in Brownsville, and she had to test amongst thousands of kids just to get India had to get.
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2 recommendations from prior teachers, 3rd grade.
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You know, I had to write a essay.
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She had to write a essay.
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She had to take an exam.
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There was an interview.
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It was really difficult to get into one of the only schools in that underprivileged area.
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For her, you know, to even have an opportunity.
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And even that school that has funding come into it had a lot of challenges as far as keeping a lot of extra curriculum activities into it.
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I needed I needed to say that.
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Right?
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So now I've learned the important ingredient in fear school system is teacher quality.
3:27:03
Right?
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A good teacher can make all the difference for a student, especially when in high need district like Brownsville, and and an experienced and effective teacher can hold students back from achieving their full potential.
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Today, they aren't enough great teachers to go around instead of solving the problem, the bill makes it worse.
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By decreasing class sizes across the board, it will encourage wealthy, low need schools to be pushed upon the best teachers away from the schools in the underprivileged areas like Brownsville.
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It will leave those schools less equipped to close the achievement gap, especially considering how COVID 19 core students to be behind even more than before the pandemic.
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Right?
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It's true.
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Large class sizes are a problem.
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Right?
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But this bill tries to solve it by creating an even worse problem, like ex exacerbating the problem.
3:28:00
Right?
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For instance, the data from the New York State Educational Department clearly indicates the disadvantages of underprivileged schools compared to privileged schools.
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Right?
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So we're talking about teachers.
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Right?
3:28:16
Teachers, teaching out of their subject or filled of certification.
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This information comes from 2022 and 2023, which isn't indicated on that thing.
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The underprivileged district is number 17 in which I'm really trying to reference.
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I'm using as a reference, which which is the Brownsville Academy High School.
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So they have 1362 teachers out of certification, teaching out of their certification.
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Out of that, 222 of them are out of cert.
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Period.
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Right?
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New York State Wide They Have 2200,000 almost 4 204,000 teachers that are teaching out of certification.
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18,302 of them are out of serve.
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State wide, high poverty schools have 43,397 teachers, teaching out of certification, 8930 6 of them are out of CERC.
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That's 21%.
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State wide low poverty schools have 60,400 and 17 teachers teaching out of CERC.
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1216 of those teachers are out of CERC.
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That's 2%.
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Not only does the high poverty schools have about 20,000 less teachers, but they also have 19% more teachers without certification.
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Right?
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Math don't lie.
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We don't have enough teaching power, right, to make our classrooms smaller.
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Right?
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They don't have enough programming already.
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If this law comes to New York City, I just urge the council in the mayor to work together to make sure it benefits high poverty schools and neighborhoods like Brownsville.
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Because in its current form, I worry that the is worse than a disease.
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Thank you.
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