Q&A
Monitor oversight of RAD/PACT converted developments
0:27:52
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4 min
The monitors explain their limited oversight role in RAD/PACT converted developments.
- Oversight mainly focused on elevators, heat, and lead in RAD/PACT developments
- Verification of specific metrics, such as boiler and elevator upgrades
- Limited interaction with residents and tenant leaders in RAD/PACT developments due to narrow scope of oversight
- Challenges in allocating resources to expand engagement with RAD/PACT residents given the limited oversight mandate
- Discussion about the potential for broader engagement with RAD/PACT residents, despite limited oversight powers
Chris Banks
0:27:52
And what what is also what has been your interaction with the or what is your interaction with the Rad Pack converted developments as far as the attended leadership?
Matt Cipolla
0:28:06
Sure.
0:28:06
So the agreement has specific provisions for our oversight of the developments that go RAD packed.
0:28:16
They're primarily in the areas of elevators, heat, and lead.
0:28:23
And there are certain metrics that NICE has to hit in terms of updating, for example, boilers.
0:28:29
I think it's 200 NICE is on track for or has already completed the boiler and elevator, and we're in the process of verifying that.
0:28:40
So our teams that go to each development and do the type of monitoring and invest a gate of work.
0:28:47
That's so important to get everyone the facts that they need are verifying that those metrics have been met.
0:28:55
And then in terms of the lead also will be going to those developments to verify that the lead abatement not only has been completed, but is being completed in a legally compliant manner.
Chris Banks
0:29:08
So what has been your findings thus far in your interactions?
0:29:13
What those particular TA leaders?
0:29:16
Can you give us some insight?
Neil Barofsky
0:29:19
We we I don't we've not had extensive contact with the TA leaders in the Rad Pak, primarily because our role is I mean, we would, obviously.
Chris Banks
0:29:27
But are you planning on
Neil Barofsky
0:29:30
A role is very limited in Rad Pak.
0:29:31
So it it really is limited to making as as Matt said, it's making sure that the elevators that are specified in the agreement have been done making sure the board
Chris Banks
0:29:42
It's more compliance.
Neil Barofsky
0:29:44
It's really compliance in a couple of narrow areas.
0:29:47
And so we're just we're not out there doing the tape type of inspections, the type of interaction that we do with the non RAD packed.
0:29:55
Developments because our oversight is so limited.
Chris Banks
0:29:58
Okay.
0:29:58
But I I get the the the compliance aspect.
0:30:03
But as far as it being comprehensive, the question will point it is, are you speaking to residents of the Rad Packs?
Neil Barofsky
0:30:14
We're not having the same level of interaction.
0:30:16
No.
0:30:16
I mean, it it's it's to be honest, it's more passive.
0:30:19
So if residents reached out to us, we would, of course, talk to them.
0:30:22
But the proactive efforts that we were talking about as far as doing a town hall or going to visit a development, we're not doing that in the Rad Pak begin because our our our oversight there is so is is very narrow and and brief.
Chris Banks
0:30:39
Well, with your limited scope of oversight, would you consider doing some degree of town hall or or or or or deeper dive into the ran pack conversions?
0:30:51
Which limited narrow scope?
Neil Barofsky
0:30:54
It would be very I mean, just to be honest, it would be very challenging in the world of limited resources to expand our resources where, again, like, you know, you talk about issues like work order reform, you know, are tenants getting their apartments repaired on time?
0:31:11
What is the response for, you know, for for potential pest infestation, potential mold infestation.
0:31:18
We really have which is one of the reasons why we we engage with this tenant engagement is to understand those problems.
0:31:25
We have zero oversight over what happens with respect to those issues in those buildings.
0:31:29
And so we can certainly take it under consideration but they're really outside of the agreement.
0:31:36
Right.
0:31:36
99% of of the issues.
0:31:38
And and, you know, I think from a resource allocation, we would rather do a town hall to residents where we can hopefully have a positive impact on their experience.
0:31:47
Whereas at a rat packed, we just don't have that oversight and that ability, to be honest.
0:31:52
I mean, I don't wanna make a fool.
Chris Banks
0:31:53
No.
0:31:54
No.
0:31:54
No.
0:31:54
And I I I I I I hear you, but it's also an obligation by nature to provide oversight.
0:32:01
Over these particular rad pack conversions.
0:32:04
Am I correct?
Neil Barofsky
0:32:05
Yes.
0:32:07
And in those areas where our oversight overlaps, again, we're we're doing that, but it's it's it's a very narrow one.
Chris Banks
0:32:12
And you said it's narrow to elevators, heat, and lead levitating.
Neil Barofsky
0:32:17
That's Yes.
0:32:19
That's right.
0:32:19
Okay.
Chris Banks
0:32:20
Alright.
0:32:22
I'll come back with questions.
0:32:25
We have a council member, Milley, who's actually on virtual.
