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Concerns over income recertification processes in converted properties
1:32:23
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Council Member Chris Banks raises concerns about residents in converted properties having to complete multiple income recertifications. NYCHA officials acknowledge issues in some developments but assert they are limited.
- Two PACT developments reportedly require multiple income certifications due to mixed funding sources
- NYCHA claims most projects only require one annual income certification
- Council member cites reports of frequent recertifications at Linden Houses
- NYCHA officials state property managers should not request interim recertifications for temporary income changes
Chris Banks
1:32:23
Let me let me interrupt you on that one so we can go step by step.
1:32:28
The there's been reports that residents have to fill out multiple certifications.
1:32:34
Have you heard about that?
Simon Kawitzky
1:32:37
Are you referring to income certifications?
1:32:39
Income certifications.
1:32:40
So certain developments and I believe it's only two developments in our portfolio.
1:32:45
I'm speaking to the PAC portfolio specifically that use different sources
Chris Banks
1:32:49
Well, even
Simon Kawitzky
1:32:50
of funding to finance the renovations.
1:32:53
Because of the nature of those transactions and the mixing of those sources, there are different levels of income certification that are is required.
1:33:03
But for all of our other projects, including the ones that are currently going through the pipeline and the planning stages, there's only one annual income certification that is required.
1:33:14
In addition, any resident can file an interim, same as under the public housing program, if they have a change in income and want to adjust their rent.
Chris Banks
1:33:22
Well, in a RAD PAC converted development, there's been reports of residents having to have filled out or have to fill out multiple recertifications during That's correct at two developments.
1:33:35
At two developments.
1:33:36
Okay.
Simon Kawitzky
1:33:36
That have already converted.
1:33:37
Correct.
Chris Banks
1:33:38
No.
1:33:39
I'm talking about RAD convert developments, not PAC developments.
1:33:43
Well, PACT.
Simon Kawitzky
1:33:44
PACT is the New York City implementation of the RAD program.
1:33:48
Right.
1:33:48
So there are two developments that I'm aware of under the PACT portfolio where that multiple step income verification
Chris Banks
1:33:56
is What about under the RAD portfolio?
1:33:59
The RAD and the PAC portfolio
Simon Kawitzky
1:34:00
are one and the same.
Chris Banks
1:34:01
No.
1:34:01
No.
1:34:02
No.
1:34:02
The there have been multiple developments that have been converted under RAD PAC.
1:34:05
Am I correct?
Simon Kawitzky
1:34:06
There are over a 60.
Chris Banks
1:34:07
Right.
1:34:08
So under those particular developments that I'm talking about, particularly Linden houses, there's been reports that residents had to fill out multiple certifications.
Simon Kawitzky
1:34:22
If there are
Chris Banks
1:34:23
And that's like, say, if they they did overtime during that month, they would be management would reach out to them and inform them that they would have to fill out another certification.
1:34:34
So, you have to see saw So,
Simon Kawitzky
1:34:37
there should not be any circumstance where a property manager is asking somebody to file an interim recertification because of a change in income.
1:34:48
But if you want to provide us with any specific circumstances, we can look into that because that again, that's not a factor or a facet of the program.