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Expanding the definition of warehouses for regulation

1:21:54

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Dawn Miller from DEP discusses the potential for expanding the definition of warehouses in the proposed regulation to include a broader range of facilities that generate truck traffic and air pollution.

The current bill draft focuses on fulfillment and distribution centers
DEP suggests including other types of warehouses, such as those serving grocery stores and bodegas
The goal is to address issues from both last mile facilities and other warehouses impacting communities
There's agreement on the 50,000 square feet threshold, with about 500 warehouses above this size
The main point for further discussion is whether to make distinctions by use within this size category

Dawn Miller

1:21:54

Yes.

1:21:55

So what I saw in the bill draft, it looked like it was focused the definition of a warehouse was focusing on fulfillment and distribution centers, which are sort of those that last use So just use rather than In the Yeah.

1:22:14

And the and the definition was on Okay.

1:22:16

Was on how they were used, you know.

1:22:21

Whereas a broader definition of a warehouse that is not limited to that kind of last step towards consumers, but also includes, you know, the the soda or beer company warehouse that sends out a bunch of trucks to to grocery stores, bodegas, etcetera.

1:22:40

So the way we're seeing it, a facility like that is also generating truck traffic and air pollution.

1:22:46

And so we're interested in, you know, discussing with you guys, you know, What's the definition of a warehouse that gets us at, like, the right population?

1:22:56

So we're addressing issues from last mile, but also from neighborhoods, you know, like near JFK, where maybe last mile is not as prevalent there, but other warehouses are really impacting those communities.

Alexa Avilés

1:23:11

I think that I think that's fair.

1:23:13

And if the does the 500 number, we'll use that, encompass warehouses that are above 50,000 square feet?

1:23:24

Yes.

1:23:25

Okay.

1:23:25

So I think we were also thinking more about the size, and in particular, just making sure we targeted the largest of those.

1:23:33

But certainly I think that I think that we should be able to negotiate certainly uses within that because that's like

Dawn Miller

1:23:41

Yeah.

1:23:41

That's great.

1:23:41

Mean 50,000 have been sort of the number we had been coalescing on.

1:23:45

And so then seeing it in your bill, I think that we actually seem fairly aligned on that as a reasonable size threshold.

1:23:52

And so the area for us to discuss further is, you know, are we making distinguishes by use?

1:23:59

Great.

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